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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 15 Noembrioy 1999

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Qa sas enhmerwsw, en taxei, gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy ayths ths ebdomadas.

* To meshmeri o Prwqypoyrgos dexetai thn ypoyrgo Dikaiosynhs ths Germanias k. Gkmelin, h opoia brisketai sthn Ellada kai qa labei meros se hmerida poy organwnetai sto Institoyto "Gkaite". Qa einai eishghtria sth syzhthsh me qema: "Ta Anqrwpina Dikaiwmata sthn Eyrwpaikh Enwsh". H ekdhlwsh ayth qa ginei to apogeyma stis 7.30. Qa thn parakoloyqhsei kai o Prwqypoyrgos. H Ypoyrgos ths Germanias einai palaia gnwsth toy.

* Ayrio to meshmeri, sth 1 h wra, qa exei synanthsh me to Grammatea ths K. E. toy PASOK K. Skandalidh. Argotera stis 2 qa dexqei ton prwhn Ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn Q. Pagkalo kai to apogeyma stis 7 qa exei syskech me synarmodioys ypoyrgoys kai alloys paragontes, enocei ths Synodoy toy OASE sthn Kwnstantinoypolh.

* Thn Tetarth, to prwi, h ellhnikh antiproswpeia, me epikefalhs ton Prwqypoyrgo, anaxwrei gia thn Kwnstantinoypolh. Thn idia hmera qa episkefqei to Oikoymeniko Patriarxeio, opoy qa exei synanthsh me ton Panagiotato k. Barqolomaio. Sth synexeia qa labei meros sth synanthsh twn hgetwn twn xwrwn ths Pareyjeinias Zwnhs. Prepei na sas pw oti sto plaisio twn ergasiwn ths Synodoy toy OASE ginontai, hdh, oi aparaithtes synennohseis kai o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei th dynatothta na synanthqei kai na synomilhsei me hgetes allwn xwrwn ths E. E., xwrwn ths Kentrikhs Eyrwphs, twn Balkaniwn. Eixe arxisei ayto ton kyklo dimerwn epafwn sto Parisi, kata th diarkeia ths prosfaths Synodoy ths Sosialistikhs Dieqnoys, me polloys hgetes xwrwn ths E. E.. Qa oloklhrwsei ayto to programma twn dimerwn epafwn.

Epishs, sto plaisio twn dimerwn epafwn mporw na sas enhmerwsw oti, pragmati, thn Pempth, to prwi, prokeitai na ginei synanthsh me ton Toyrko Prwqypoyrgo k. Etsebit. H epistrofh sthn Ellada problepetai thn Paraskeyh, me thn oloklhrwsh twn ergasiwn ths Synodoy. Thn Paraskeyh to apogeyma, allwste, arxizei kai h epishmh episkech toy Amerikanoy Proedroy sthn Ellada, h opoia oloklhrwnetai to Sabbato to brady, symfwna me to programma. Thn Paraskeyh to brady qa doqei to deipno pros timhn toy Amerikanoy Proedroy apo ton Proedro ths Ellhnikhs Dhmokratias kai to Sabbato to prwi qa ginoyn oi syzhthseis toy Amerikanoy Proedroy me toys Ellhnes epishmoys.

* Kleinw, legontas oti thn erxomenh Deytera (22/11) qa brisketai sthn Ellada o Proedros ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias k. Klhridhs, o opoios qa exei synanthsh kai synergasia, stis 12 to meshmeri, me ton Prwqypoyrgo kai thn ellhnikh kybernhsh. Meta th syzhthsh qa parasxeqei geyma, opoy bebaiws qa doqei mia eykairia akomh na ginei peraiterw anaptyjh twn qematwn poy qa apasxolhsoyn toys dyo hgetes kai tis antiproswpeies twn dyo xwrwn.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

LEONTOPOYLOS: Pws sxoliazete th dhlwsh Klinton gia enarjh twn apeyqeias synomiliwn metajy Klhridh-Ntenktas, ton erxomeno mhna;

REPPAS: H diafainomenh enarjh synomiliwn ek toy syneggys, metajy twn dyo pleyrwn, einai ena qetiko gegonos. Ekfrazoyme thn ikanopoihsh mas gi ayto. Elpizoyme na yparxei oysiastikh syzhthsh gia ola ta qemata poy aforoyn to kypriako problhma kai bebaiws na diasfalistei h synexish aytoy toy dialogoy, prokeimenoy na odhghqoyme se sygkekrimena apotelesmata. Sthn kateyqynsh ayth pisteyoyme oti einai epibohqhtikh h dhlwsh poy ekane kai o Amerikanos Proedros.

MIXAHL: Epeidh apo polles pleyres syndeontai oi ejelijeis sto Kypriako me thn entajiakh poreia ths Kyproy pros thn E. E., enocei ths Synodoy Koryfhs sto Elsinki, arkei gia thn ellhnikh kybernhsh to gegonos oti arxizoyn oi syzhthseis metajy Klhridh-Ntenktas; Ftanei ayto gia na dwsoyme th sygkataqesh mas sto na einai h Toyrkia ypochfia pros entajh xwra;

REPPAS: Oson afora to qema ayto, gnwrizete oti sth Synodo Koryfhs toy Elsinki prokeitai na syzhthqei, sto plaisio toy genikoteroy qematos ths dieyrynshs ths E. E.. Ekei h Ellada qa diatypwsei thn telikh qesh ths. Asfalws, einai qetiko gegonos oti anakoinwnetai kai jekina dialogos metajy twn dyo paragontwn. Ayto oydeis mporei na to paragnwrisei. Einai gnwsto, omws, -se genikes toylaxiston grammes- poio einai to plaisio qesewn poy emeis exoyme anaptyjei kai ara poia einai h qesh mas, h opoia aporreei apo ayto to plaisio poy qa akoloyqhsoyme sth Synodo Koryfhs toy Elsinki. Pisteyw oti einai laqos na syzhtoyme, dhmosiws, me polles leptomereies, poly prin jekinhsoyn aytes oi diadikasies. Pisteyw oti kai apo apoch taktikhs, alla kai oysias einai poly pio swsto na parakoloyqhsoyme pws ejelissontai ta pragmata kai na exoyme thn analogh eyelijia, prokeimenoy h qesh poy qa laboyme, thn katallhlh stigmh, na einai h pleon orqh me gnwmona pantote to eqniko mas symferon.

Oson afora to qema ths ypochfiothtas ths Toyrkias exoyme, kat epanalhch, pei oti ayto syndeetai me diafores parametroys. H syndesh ayth paramenei.

MIXAHL: Paramenei se isxy kai h apofash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs, oxi h teleytaia, opoy eixate pei oti den ftanei h epanenarjh twn synomiliwn, oyte h opoiadhpote aytodesmeysh ths Toyrkias oti den qa kanei tipota poy na dhmioyrgei entash sto Aigaio kai oti xreiazetai emprakth xeironomia. Isxyei ayth h qesh poy tote eixe parei h kybernhsh;

REPPAS: Ta osa exoyme pei isxyoyn apolytws. Aplws, gia na mh dhmioyrghqei paranohsh moy dinete thn eykairia, me thn erwthsh sas, na dieykrinisw gia mia akomh fora kai na aposafhnisw oti:

Prwton, oson afora tis ellhnotoyrkikes sxeseis, asfalws anamenoyme apo thn Toyrkia mia emprakth antidrash, h opoia qa deixnei oti epiqymei ki ekeinh thn plhrh ejomalynsh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn.

Deyteron, oson afora thn paroysia ths xwras mas kai th synergasia mas, afenos me tis alles xwres ths E. E. kai afeteroy, tis sxeseis ths E. E. me thn Toyrkia, sto plaisio ekeino syzhtoyme qemata poy aforoyn to an h Toyrkia qa xarakthristei h oxi ypochfia pros entajh xwra sthn E. E.. Qelw na pw oti yparxoyn dyo pedia: Yparxei to kaqara dimeres, metajy Elladas kai Toyrkias, opoy sto pedio ayto anamenoyme apo th symperifora ths Toyrkias na allajei to klima, prokeimenoy na odhghqoyme se plhrh ejomalynsh twn sxesewn. Yparxei kai to allo pedio twn sxesewn ths E. E. me thn Toyrkia, sthn opoia E. E. ws isotimo melos symmetexei h Ellada. Se ayto to epipedo syzhteitai to qema ths apokthshs ayths ths idiothtas apo thn Toyrkia, ths ypochfias pros entajh xwras.

MIXAHL: Kata thn kybernhsh ta dyo ayta epipeda einai efaptomena, diistamena h temnomena;

REPPAS: Nomizw oti exete dwsei apanthsh monos sas. Einai qemata poy aforoyn meizonos shmasias zhthmata gia thn poreia ths xwras, einai qemata ta opoia aforoyn ton pyrhna ths ejwterikhs politikhs mas. Antilambaneste, meta ta osa eipa, poia einai h sxesh toys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sas problhmatizei to gegonos oti anakoinwqhke ayth h syskech, ligh wra afotoy apogeiwqhke to aeroplano toy k. Klinton;

REPPAS: Prepei na mas problhmatizei to gegonos oti exoyme mia qetikh ejelijh; Einai qetiko to gegonos to oti arxizoyn oi synomilies. Gnwrizete oti, edw kai kairo, o G. G. toy OHE k. Kofi Anan exei analabei sxetikh prwtoboylia, kataballei prospaqeies, prokeimenoy na kalesei toys ekproswpoys twn dyo Koinothtwn na proselqoyn stis syzhthseis. Nomizw oti h ejelijh ayth einai apotelesma ths prospaqeias poy ekane o k. Anan. Me ayth thn ennoia -epeidh ki emeis ws Ellada briskomaste sthn idia eyqeia grammh me thn politikh ths kypriakhs kybernhshs kai symfwnoyme oti prepei, einai xrhsimo na arxisoyn aytes oi synomilies- ayto to gegonos to krinoyme ws qetiko.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Nai, alla htan ena qema apo ta opoia qa syzhtoyse o k. Klinton edw. Me to dialogo twra paei sthn mpanta. Etsi den einai;

REPPAS: Shmasia exei oti arxizei o dialogos. Den antilambanomai poia einai h enstash poy diatypwnete; Giati blepw oti akomh kai otan exoyme mia qetikh ejelijh anazhtoyme tropoys na askhsoyme kritikh, me aformh ayth th qetikh ejelijh. Den antilambanomai poio einai to -kata kapoio tropo- parapono poy diatypwnete oti ayto to qema den qa syzhthqei edw. Asfalws kai qa syzhthqei. Exoyme pei se oloys toys tonoys kai epanalambanw oti to kypriako problhma einai ena qema poy qa qesoyme sto trapezi twn syzhthsewn kata thn episkech toy Amerikanoy Proedroy sthn Ellada. Asfalws qa syzhthqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tetoios dialogos exei arxisei alles dyo fores.

REPPAS: Elpizw ayth th fora na mhn exei thn idia katalhjh. Ayto ejartatai apo oles tis pleyres. H kypriakh kybernhsh proserxetai me apolyth eyqynh, prokeimenoy na symbalei, wste epiteloys na doqei mia lysei se ayto to problhma poy tosa xronia paramenei alyto kai apotelei stigma kai ntroph gia thn politismenh Eyrwph.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai kati akomh: Zhthse o k. Pagkalos na dei ton k. Shmith h o k. Shmiths kalese ton k. Pagkalo;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete poly kala oti exoyn epikoinwnhsei, epikoinwnhsan kai thlefwnika, exoyn synanthqei, qa synanthqoyn kai pali. Einai mia synanthsh h opoia prokyptei meta thn epiqymia twn dyo politikwn na synanthqoyn.

SOYRMELH: Epeidh anaggeilate thn atzenta twn synomiliwn toy k. Shmith sthn Kwnstantinoypolh, qa hqela na sas rwthsw, an mesa se ayth thn atzenta problepontai dimereis synomilies me ton Proedro Klinton.

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti ginetai ayth thn wra h proergasia, prokeimenoy sto plaisio ths Synodoy ayths, o Ellhnas Prwqypoyrgos na exei dimereis synanthseis. Den exei apofasistei, toylaxiston me ta osa mexri twra einai programmatismena, mia tetoia synanthsh. Allwste, meta apo mia-dyo hmeres o Amerikanos Proedros qa brisketai sthn Ellada, opoy qa yparxei h dynatothta gia synomilies.

SOYRMELH: H synanthsh metajy twn kyriwn Etzebit kai Shmith pws ryqmisthke;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete, oti o hgeths ths xwras poy filojenei mia megalh dieqnh diorganwsh, pairnei thn prwtoboylia kai kalei hgetes jenwn xwrwn poy briskontai, me aformh ayth th Diaskech, sthn patrida toy, se mia synanthsh. Kai alloys hgetes, profanws, exei kalesei o Toyrkos Prwqypoyrgos. Aphyqyne prosklhsh dia ths diplwmatikhs odoy pros ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo. Doqhke qetikh apanthsh kai exei programmatistei ayth h synanthsh na ginei thn Pempth to prwi.

KYRIAKIDOY: Epeidh aytes oi proseggiseis exoyn ginei polles fores kai den exei yparjei kapoio apotelesma, h kybernhsh sas poies pisteyei oti einai oi proypoqeseis, ayth th fora, gia na yparjei kapoio qetiko apotelesma;

REPPAS: Exoyme mprosta mas arketes hmeres gia na arxisoyn aytes oi synomilies. Den einai dynaton emeis na prodikasoyme -qa htan epipolaio, politika astoxo h kai epizhmio- poia qa einai h ejelijh twn synomiliwn aytwn. Emeis pisteyoyme apolyta oti h kypriakh kybernhsh proserxetai se aytes tis syzhthseis me diaqesh na symbalei, wste na ejeyreqei mia diarkhs, biwsimh kai leitoyrgikh lysh sto kypriako zhthma. Ayto qa prepei na kanoyn kai oloi oi alloi paragontes poy emplekontai stis diadikasies, prokeimenoy o dialogos aytos na ajiopoihqei sto megisto baqmo.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, swsta ta lete, alla prepei na gnwrizete oti o Ntenktas dexqhke na paei se synomilies, stis 3 Dekembrioy, ekbiazontas thn katastash na paei ws isotimo melos me ton k. Klhridh. Kai dexqhkame ton ekbiasmo. Qa hqela ena sxoliasmo gi ayto. Kai deyteron, qa hqela na moy peite an ektos apo th synanthsh Shmith-Etzebit, mhpws odhgoymaste se trimerh diaskech Klinton-Shmith-Etzebit;

REPPAS: Oson afora to deytero skelos ths erwthshs sas, apantw pws den tiqetai tetoio qema. Gia to prwto skelos ths erwthshs sas, qa pw oti kai sto parelqon oi dyo hgetes prosklhqhkan ws ejoxothtes, prokeimenoy na paroyn meros stis syzhthseis. Einai kati poy exei janaginei. Kai en pash periptwsei, symmetexoyn se aytes tis syzhthseis ws epikefalhs h ws ekproswpoi twn dyo Koinothtwn. Einai dikoinotikes synomilies. Me ayth thn ennoia, den tiqetai qema. Kakws dhmioyrgeitai ayth h entypwsh. To qema einai oti o k. Ntenktas arniotan tis syzhthseis kai twra proserxetai stis syzhthseis. Den qelw na dhmioyrghsw thn entypwsh oti ayto apotelei ena megalo epiteygma apo mono toy. Kaqe allo. Mporw, omws, na isxyristw basimws pws to oti arxizoyn oi synomilies einai mia qetikh ejelijh. Kai menei na apodeixqei poia qa einai h synexeia ayths ths prwtoboylias gia na exoyme ena teliko symperasma.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kai den einai ypobaqmish ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias ayto;

REPPAS: Kamia ypobaqmish den einai kai to gnwrizete oloi ayto. O Proedros ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias k. Klhridhs einai o monos nomimos ekproswpos ths Kyproy. Aytos anagnwrizetai apo oles tis kybernhseis, apo thn E. E. Aytos qa breqei sto Elsinki, meqayrio, ws ekproswpos toy laoy ths Kyproy, prokeimenoy na syzhthsei me ta alla krath ths E. E. Aytos exei nomimws thn idiothta toy Proedroy ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias. Kai ayto anagnwrizetai apo olo ton kosmo. Ayto einai kati to kaqoristiko, to opoio den prepei epishs na parablepoyme.

CAROPOYLOS: Qa yparjei trimerhs synanthsh Shmith-Ntemirel-Klinton h se epipedo ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn;

REPPAS: Apanthsa, prin, ston k. Kwnstantinidh gi ayto to qema. Den tiqetai qema trimeroys. Oi ypoyrgoi Ejwterikwn qa exoyn th dynatothta na synanthqoyn sto plaisio geymatos h synergasias poy analambanei thn prwtoboylia na organwsei o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias k. Tzem gia toys 15 ypoyrgoys Ejwterikwn twn xwrwn-melwn ths E. E.

BIKETOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, sas leei tipota to gegonos, oti enw ginontan diaboyleyseis gia na yparjei grapth prosklhsh toy Genikoy Grammatea poy htan symfwnhmenh apo tis dyo pleyres, telikws h prosklhsh gia tis synomilies diatypwqhke proforikws; Kai ena deytero erwthma: Ean problhmatizoyn thn Aqhna oi antidraseis poy ekdhlwqhkan apo thn pleiochfia twn kypriakwn politikwn kommatwn kai apo ton tropo poy egine h prosklhsh kai gia tis meqodeyseis poy exoyn dromologhqei.

REPPAS: Asfalws, h wra ayth einai idiaitera krisimh gia thn Kypro. Xreiazetai h akraia eyaisqhsia kai ypeyqynothta apo ola ta politika kommata -kai sthn Ellada kai sthn Kypro- prokeimenoy to meizon ayto eqniko qema na mhn katastei pedio politikhs antidikias kai kommatikhs antiparaqeshs, alla shmeio synenwshs twn dynamewn kai sygklishs twn prospaqeiwn olwn mas, gia na exoyme to kalytero dynato apotelesma. Diatypwnontai aytes oi apoceis, oi opoies bebaiws se kapoia shmeia einai apoklinoyses. Apo thn allh, omws, ayto to opoio, th sygkekrimenh stigmh, qewroyme oti proexei, einai oi synomilies. To oti arxizoyn oi synomilies einai ena qetiko gegonos. Menei na apodeixqei -kai pisteyw oti kerdismenh qa einai h kypriakh kybernhsh, h opoia qa labei meros se aytes tis synomilies -oti kai h allh pleyra proserxetai me thn idia eilikrinh diaqesh na symbalei, wste na ejeyreqei lysh. Ayto, omws, menei na apodeixqei. H Kypros den exei tipota na fobhqei. H kypriakh kybernhsh mporei na xeiristei ayta ta qemata. Kai mporei na ta xeiristei akomh kalytera, an niwqei oti exei th sthrijh olwn twn politikwn dynamewn kai oloy toy kypriakoy laoy.

Asfalws, ayto einai kati poy den mporei kaneis na to paragnwrisei. Apo thn allh, omws, qa prepei na poyme oti se ayth thn krisimh fash xreiazetai na antapokriqoyme qetika se prwtoboylies, oi opoies, peran ths kinhtikothtas poy diathroyn peri to kypriako zhthma, dinoyn kai mia sygkekrimenh diejodo sthn kateyqynsh toy na anazhthsoyme lyseis sto kypriako problhma. Kai h enarjh twn synomiliwn, pisteyw oti einai mia tetoia ejelijh.

BIKETOS: Mia dieykrinish: Oi mesolabhtes, sas exoyn dwsei opoiesdhpote endeijeis oti qa yparjei mia metabolh toy toyrkikoy "statoys" poy qa epitrecei na ginoyn epoikodomhtikes synomilies; Exete kapoia endeijh apo toys mesolabhtes;

REPPAS: Egw, ek meroys ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs mporw na milhsw, ayth thn wra kai na pw oti den einai dynato na prokatalaboyme ton tropo me ton opoio qa syzhthsoyn oi paragontes se aytes tis synanthseis. Ayto to opoio exei shmasia einai na ginoyn oi syzhthseis. Den gnwrizw poia qa einai h stash twn paragontwn, eite toy k. Ntenktas, eite kapoioy alloy ekproswpoy ths Dieqnoys Koinothtas poy qa mesolabhsei se ayth thn prospaqeia. Ayto poy gnwrizw einai oti h kypriakh kybernhsh proserxetai me eilikrinh diaqesh na symbalei sthn ejeyresh lyshs. Kai elpizw to idio na kanoyn kai alloi. Ayto menei na apodeixqei sthn prajh. Kai oloi qa kriqoyn kai analogws qa pistwqoyn h qa xrewqoyn thn ejelijh aytoy toy dialogoy.

KARASABBA: Dhladh, ek toy apotelesmatos twn synomiliwn aytwn qa kriqei ean einai mia xeiropiasth, emprakth xeironomia kalhs qelhshs gia thn ejomalynsh twn ellhnotoyrkikwn sxesewn;

REPPAS: Twra syzhtoyme gia to kypriako problhma, to opoio paramenei alyto epi polla xronia. Kai eipame oti asfalws, qeloyme na synexistoyn oi synomilies kai na odhghqoyn oi syzhthseis aytes se sygkekrimena apotelesmata.

KARASABBA: Dhladh, ti perimenoyme; Den mporw na katalabw ti perimenei h ellhnikh kybernhsh gia na qewrhsei ayto to gegonos ws mia emprakth xeironomia kalhs qelhshs.

REPPAS: Asfalws einai qetikh ejelijh to oti arxizei o dialogos. Alla, kata th dikh sas apoch, to oti symmetexei o k. Ntenktas shmainei oti einai qetikh xeironomia ek meroys ths Toyrkias; Kanei xarh o k. Ntenktas, dhladh, me to oti symmetexei se mia syzhthsh h opoia organwnetai apo ton OHE; Isa-isa, o k. Ntenktas einai ekeinos o opoios arneitai epimonws na symmorfwqei stis apofaseis poy exei labei to Symboylio Asfaleias toy OHE. Ayto akribws deixnei th diaforetikh poiothta, ton tropo me ton opoio antapokrinontai stis ypoxrewseis toys apenanti sth Dieqnh Koinothta orismenoi politikoi paragontes. Ayto eleipe, twra, kati to opoio apotelei stoixeiwdh ypoxrewsh toy k. Ntenktas, na symmorfwnetai me tis arxes kai toys kanones leitoyrgias toy OHE, na to qewrhsoyme kai ws paraxwrhsh ek meroys toy. Einai to stoixeiwdes, einai to elaxisto to na pairnei meros se kapoies syzhthseis, oi opoies ginontai ypo thn aigida toy Genikoy Grammatea toy OHE. Kai ayto to opoio, kaqe fora, exei shmasia, einai h proodos, h opoia einai apolytws metrhsimh. H opoia proodos syntelestei qa mas bohqhsei na bgaloyme safh symperasmata.

PAPPA: Kyrie Ekproswpe, na symfwnhsw mazi sas oti qewrhtika prokeitai gia mia qetikh ejelijh, oson afora thn istoria toy dialogoy. Den anhsyxei, en toytois, thn kybernhsh h sygkekrimenh ejelijh poy mporei na einai prosxhmatikh, prokeimenoy na dieykolynqei h Toyrkia enocei ths Synodoy Koryfhs sto Elsinki;

REPPAS: Milhsa gia pistwseis kai xrewseis. Kaqenas qa kriqei apo th stash poy qa thrhsei.

ANTYPAS: Mhpws qa mporesete na mas peite merika pragmata gia th shmerinh prwinh syskech sto Megaro Majimoy;

REPPAS: Se ayth th syskech toy Prwqypoyrgoy me synarmodioys ypoyrgoys syzhthqhkan qemata ths epikairothtas, qemata ayths ths ebdomadas. Den yparxei kapoia allh anakoinwsh.

MIXAHL: Opws, poio qema;

REPPAS: Den symmeteixa se ayth th syzhthsh kai den gnwrizw to akribes periexomeno. Einai sto plaisio twn taktikwn synergasiwn poy exei o Prwqypoyrgos me toys ypoyrgoys gia diafora qemata.

MIXAHL: Ena qema ths ebdomadas;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti qa leipei sto ejwteriko. Einai o OASE, einai h episkech toy Amerikanoy Proedroy sthn Ellada. Ayta ta qemata, antilambaneste pws einai qemata poy apasxoloyn tetoioy eidoys syzhthseis. Den prepei na kanei entypwsh ayto.

ANTYPAS: Syzhthqhke kai to qema toy eortasmoy toy Polytexneioy kai ta metra poy qa lhfqoyn gia thn asfaleia toy Amerikanoy Proedroy;

REPPAS: Exoyn ginei, se kybernhtiko kai se yphresiako epipedo, synergasies gia ayto to qema, opws ginetai kaqe xrono.

GEROPOYLOS: Exoyn kaqoristei oi symfwnies poy qa ypogracei o Amerikanos Proedros me ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo; Kai an se aytes perilambanetai symfwnia gia thn antimetwpish ths tromokratias.

REPPAS: Gnwrizw oti oi armodies yphresies twn dyo xwrwn syzhtoyn ta qemata ta opoia qa apotelesoyn antikeimeno syzhthshs, idiaiterws ta qemata ekeina sta opoia fainetai oti einai wrimes oi synqhkes gia na ypografoyn kai symfwnies. Gia to sygkekrimeno qema, sto opoio anaferqhkate me thn erwthsh sas, mporw na sas pw, opws ekana kai sto parelqon, apantwntas se analoges erwthseis, oti den yfistatai tetoio qema.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, thn Paraskeyh, otan sas rwthsame na dwsete orismenes dieykriniseis gia ta aparaithta metra poy qa labei h kybernhsh gia thn asfalh diamonh toy Amerikanoy Proedroy, mas eipate oti den yparxei tipota epishmo oti thn Paraskeyh qa ginei kapoia poreia. Shmera gnwrizoyme oti thn Paraskeyh qa ginei ayth h poreia. Mhpws h kybernhsh exei na anakoinwsei kapoia pio sygkekrimena metra gia ekeinh thn hmera;

REPPAS: H qesh ths kybernhshs einai qesh arxhs. Paramenw sta osa eipa ta opoia, efoson efarmozontai, parexoyn th dynatothta na antimetwpistei kaqe endexomeno. Dieykolynoyn tis armodies yphresies na kanoyn swsta to ergo toys. Den yparxei kati allo newtero.

SOYRMELH: Jerete an h Neolaia toy kybernwntos kommatos qa metasxei sthn poreia ths Paraskeyhs;

REPPAS: Gnwrizw oti ayto to qema to syzhtaei h Neolaia toy PASOK me tis alles Neolaies. Exei thn organwtikh aytonomia ths, tis dikes ths diadikasies. H kybernhsh exei diatypwsei tis qeseis ths, me epishmo tropo kai paramenei se aytes tis qeseis.

GARGALAKOS: Fhmologeitai oti yparxei mia krish stis sxeseis toy Ypoyrgoy Typoy me to ERS. Exete kapoio sxolio ep` aytoy;

REPPAS: Diabazw kai egw dhmosieymata ta opoia, qa moy epitrecete na pw, qewrw pws den einai o katallhloteros tropos gia na antimetwpisoyme qemata ta opoia einai sobara. Egw exw epilejei na siwphsw. Asfalws, qa enhmerwsw gia ola ta qemata poy exoyn sxesh me to ERS, gia th synergasia mas, en kairw. Qa paraxwrhsw synenteyjh Typoy, me leptomereies, gia ola ayta ta qemata. Egw timw to ergo olwn, alla qelw h prospaqeia poy kanoyme na einai prospaqeia poy katateinei sto na epityxoyme sto radiothleoptiko topio th nomimothta, th diafaneia kai thn poiothta. Ayto einai to triptyxo gia to opoio ergazomaste apo thn arxh. Ta teleytaia xronia ths qhteias moy, edw sto Ypoyrgeio, exoyme kat` epanalhch milhsei gia ayto. Qa elega, kata ta alla, oti eimai opados toy dogmatos poy pisteyw oti isxyei sth sygkekrimenh periptwsh kai den einai allo apo to gnwsto stixo "ligotera synqhmata kai pio pollh doyleia". Giati, pisteyw oti ta qemata ayta den antimetwpizontai me politika h parapolitika dhmosieymata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exete kalh synergasia me to ERS;

REPPAS: Kaqoson me afora, den exw kanena apolytws problhma.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exoyn problhma aytoi;

REPPAS: Ayto einai kati gia to opoio prepei na rwthsete toys idioys, na sas to poyn epishmws. Giati, bebaiws, blepw dhmosieymata ta opoia apodidoyn se kapoies phges ta osa grafontai. Qa moy epitrecete na pw, omws, oti exw kai egw tis apoceis moy tis opoies ekferw h dhmosiopoiw me tetoio tropo, wste na eimai synephs sthn ypoxrewsh poy exw analabei apenanti ston ellhniko lao na ferw se peras ena poly sygkekrimeno ergo, ston tomea ayto.

MIXAHL: Ws Ypoyrgo Typoy, loipon, exw na sas kanw mia erwthsh h opoia kai afora thn episkech Klinton. Qelw na mas peite, ti perilambanei h symfwnia peri pneymatikwn dikaiwmatwn, thn opoia eseis qa ypogracete, opws maqainoyme kai apo alles phges kai to epibebaiwnoyn pleon oloi oti qa ypografei kata thn episkech toy k. Klinton edw.

REPPAS: Prwta apo ola, prepei na sas pw oti ston tomea ayto exoyme kanei mia terastia prospaqeia me poly ikanopoihtika apotelesmata. Ayto anagnwrizetai kai einai pros timhn kai toy Ypoyrgeioy mas gia to oti ena qema, poy apotelese shmeio antidikias twn dyo kybernhsewn, apo tis arxes kiolas ths dekaetias toy 90 kai eixe parameinei ekkremes, ena problhma alyto, fainetai oti ftanei sthn eytyxh katalhjh toy, me symfwnia kai twn dyo kybernhsewn. Pisteyw oti oi meres poy apomenoyn einai arketes, wste na oloklhrwsoyme thn prospaqeia mas, afoy twra oi armodioi paragontes syzhtoyn ta sxetika keimena, prokeimenoy na proxwrhsoyme sthn ypografh sxetikhs symfwnias. Ayth qa einai mia poly qetikh ejelijh. An qelete, qa einai kai mia phgh ikanopoihshs gia mas poy ston tomea ayto, opoy oysiastika den eixe ginei tipota sthn Ellada, edw kai polla xronia, thn teleytaia periodo, meta to 1996, me bash ena programma poy katartisame, poy ekponhsame, gnwstopoihsame kai efarmosame, katorqwsame na dwsoyme lysh se ena "agkaqi".

MIXAHL: Ayta einai kala kai wraia. Praktika...

REPPAS: Asfalws, poly kala, qa elega.

MIXAHL: Epi ths oysias, eseis ws Ypoyrgos Typoy ti akribws qa ypogracete me toys Amerikanoys;

REPPAS: Kyrie Mixahl, isws den gnwrizete, me leptomereies, ta qemata ayta.

MIXAHL: Den mas enhmerwsate gia to ti syzhthsate pote me ton k. Mperns... Milate mono gia to kalo klima synergasias.

REPPAS: Kanete laqos. Prepei na sas pw oti ta qemata ayta, oi synadelfoi sas poy asxoloyntai me to radiothleoptiko xwro, ta anadeiknyoyn. To qema twn pneymatikwn dikaiwmatwn exei mia jexwristh qesh sto synolo twn dhmosieymatwn poy aforoyn ta toy radiothleoptikoy xwroy. Yphrxe ena shmeio antidikias: H kybernhsh twn HPA eixe strafei enantion ths xwras mas. Eixame odhghqei ston Pagkosmio Organismo Emporioy, eixan arxisei oi syzhthseis sth Geneyh gia thn antimetwpish twn qematwn aytwn. H prospaqeia poy kaname exei apodwsei karpoys kai h kybernhsh twn HPA anagnwrizei kai qewrei oti, apo th dikh ths pleyra, den yfistatai pleon qema. Ayto bebaia, menei na apotypwqei -epanalambanw- se ena keimeno symfwnias poy isws ypografei. Alla to qema ayto einai anoikto. Oi armodioi paragontes twn dyo kybernhsewn syzhtoyn. Liges hmeres apomenoyn gia na gnwrizoyme kai emeis pws qa katalhjei ayto to qema. Epanalambanw omws, oti einai enas tomeas ston opoio to Ypoyrgeio mas ekane systhmatikh, poly kalh doyleia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa ypografei to Sabbato;

REPPAS: Isws. Eipa, apantwntas ston k. Geropoylo, oti to qema einai anoikto.

Sas eyxaristw.

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