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U.S. Department of State Daily Press Briefing #103, 99-08-12

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From: The Department of State Foreign Affairs Network (DOSFAN) at <http://www.state.gov>


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U.S. Department of State

Daily Press Briefing

I N D E X

Thursday, August 12, 1999

Briefer: James P. Rubin

ANNOUNCEMENTS
1	Secretary Albright will address Seeds of Peace on Monday.
1	Under Secretary Pickering will brief on his Latin American trip on
	 Monday. 
1	Secretary Albright statement that US is concerned by the
	 pre-election situation in East Timor. 

INDIA / PAKISTAN 2-3 US regrets deaths of Pakistani crewmen and continues to call on both countries to exercise restraint. 2 US unable to confirm where Pakastani plane was flying when shot down.

INDONESIA 3 US deplores the recent violence in Ambon and other parts of Indonesia.

PANAMA 4 US has seen no interest on the part of China to disrupt Canal operations.

CHINA (TIBET) 4-6 The Dalai Lama is visiting the US in his capacity as a religious and spiritual leader. 6 US supports preservation of Tibetan religious culture and linguistic heritage and protection of human rights. 6 US regards Tibet as a part of China.

ISRAEL 6-7 Minister of Justice Yossi Be'elin met with the Secretary today.

MIDDLE EAST PEACE PROCESS 7 Most ongoing Israeli-Palestinian discussions are bilateral and direct. 7-8 No change in US view of Palestinian compliance with anti-terrorism provisions.

IRAQ 8 US continues to hold Saddam Hussein responsible for the suffering of the Iraqi people. 8 Oil-for-food program works in areas where Saddam Hussein isn't manipulating the medicines and supplies.

RUSSIA 9-10 US condemns actions by armed groups from Chechnya against authorities and civilians in Dagestan. 9 US urges all parties to refrain from harming innocent civilians.

CAMBODIA 10-11 US will continue to press for a speedy trial of former Khmer Rouge leaders under international auspices.

CUBA 11-12 US will not comment on possible violation of Helms-Burton by a Spanish company.

GENEVA CONVENTION 12-13 Today is the 50th anniversary.


U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
DAILY PRESS BRIEFING

DPB #103

THURSDAY, AUGUST 12, 1999, 1:05 P.M.

(ON THE RECORD UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED)

MR. RUBIN: Welcome to the State Department briefing. I have two announcements for you. One is that Secretary Albright will be offering welcoming remarks on Monday to the 1999 Seeds of Peace International Camp for Conflict Resolution at 3:00 p.m. in the Dean Acheson Auditorium. In addition, Under Secretary Pickering will be available on Monday to brief you, we understand - I'm not sure we have a time yet - on his trip to South America.

On behalf of Secretary Albright, let me also say - and this will come out in a full statement shortly - that on August 30, the people of East Timor will have the chance to accept or reject autonomy; an opportunity many thought could never be realized. By allowing this process to go forward, the government of Indonesia has demonstrated its renewed commitment to democracy. Formal campaigning for this vote begins this weekend.

In that light, let me say the United States is deeply concerned by the acts of violence and intimidation which have already marred the pre-campaign period. It is critical, both to ensure a fair vote and to preserve the credibility of Indonesia's own transition, that Jakarta meet its obligation to provide a secure environment and promote the disarmament of all paramilitary forces in East Timor.

The government of Indonesia has repeatedly assured the United States and other nations that it will fulfill its responsibility to provide security immediately after August 30, and other nations that it will fulfill its responsibility as well, regardless of the outcome. Indonesia is also finalizing an agreement with the United Nations to insure that the valuable UN civil and military presence continues after August 30. The United States will do its part to make sure this UN presence remains a robust one.

Indonesian officials - some officials - and anti-independence militia leaders have suggested in recent days that a vote for independence will result in extensive violence or even civil war. This is intimidation, or worse; it is unacceptable.

Secretary Albright takes this opportunity to remind all concerned in the strongest possible terms that they are obligated to respect the results of the referendum and provide genuine security for all East Timorese. The return of widespread violence to East Timor would be a needless tragedy and would cast serious doubt on Indonesia's own democratic vocation. The United States and our partners are doing all we can to promote this outcome, and Secretary Albright indicated it was very important that the people of Indonesia have this opportunity to make their decision. This will come out in the full statement later this afternoon.

QUESTION: On the India-Pakistan front. You found no reason for optimism yesterday. Has the situation changed in any way? Is the US finding any reason to become a little more active in trying to restore some semblance of comity?

MR. RUBIN: Funeral services were held today in Karachi for the 16 Pakistani crewmen killed when their aircraft was downed. Prime Minister Sharif attended the ceremony. Let me take this opportunity to express our regret at the deaths of the Pakistani airmen.

Yesterday at the United Nations, Security Council members affirmed their support for Secretary General Annan's statement regretting the loss of life and expressing concern at repeated incidents.

Like us, the Secretary General urged that India and Pakistan resolve their differences by peaceful means; called on both countries to exercise restraint; and looked forward to an early resumption of the bilateral dialogue. We support the Secretary General's statement and call upon both countries to act in a responsible way to prevent further tragedy and to reduce tensions.

We have continued our contacts with both governments to urge restraint and dialogue. Our charge in Delhi will meet today with the Indian Foreign Secretary. We continue to remain in contact with Pakistani authorities.

With respect to the overall comment, given what happened yesterday, I think it's fair to say that today the situation is not worse.

QUESTION: You remember there was a lack of facts. The State Department hadn't been able to ascertain what actually happened to provoke this stand- off. US diplomats were going to make inquiries in both embassies, in both capitals. Have you found out yet what happened, and do you find any reason for assessing blame in one direction or another; or would you rather just stay on the sidelines and hope that they will patch up their own disagreements without any judgments from the United States?

MR. RUBIN: Yesterday we talked about a 1991 agreement that we indicated was not respected. I indicated there was a difference between not respecting the notification part and a much more serious not respecting of the agreement by shooting down an aircraft. So I think that is certainly one point.

With respect to the location of the plane when it was shot down, we cannot independently confirm where the Pakistani plane was fired at. The border is highly disputed in that area. We do not have thousands and thousands of American military or other personnel in those obscure locations in the region; therefore, neither our human eyes or any other capabilities are in a position to affirm conclusively the location of the plane.

QUESTION: That would apply, I suppose, to both sides. They may not have known where the plane is, right? Is it that --

MR. RUBIN: I don't know what radio signals were sent back and forth or what information was obtained by the wreckage. Apparently both sides are disputing the wreckage and where it's located, and various accusations have been made by both parties.

QUESTION: In your contacts with the parties, have you received any assurances that they will revert to respecting the 1991 agreement?

MR. RUBIN: Not at this point. We have been talking to them about it and urging that they do so. I don't have any confirmation that both parties have indicated that they will do so.

QUESTION: One or the other indicated it?

MR. RUBIN: I don't have any information that either party has indicated it would do so.

QUESTION: Any signs on the military front that both sides are sort of moving toward a wider conflict?

MR. RUBIN: No. I mean, other than the fact that conflict continues in Kashmir and that there is continuing fighting in the Kashmir area. But beyond that, I'm not in a position to detail everything we might know about the Indian and Pakistani order of battle. But for now what we want to do is urge restraint and to urge neither side to take any escalatory steps.

QUESTION: I want to go back to Indonesia but not East Timor. In other parts of Indonesia, particularly in Aceh, there is continuing massacres and another really horrible one, I guess, earlier today, in which up to 30 Christians were killed in a church in Ambon. I'm wondering, do you have anything to say about that?

MR. RUBIN: Inter-ethnic fighting and rioting on the eastern Indonesian island of Ambon claimed more than 25 lives since the beginning of this week. According to accounts we've seen, the recent violence began to flare in late July and, in our view, we deplore the outbreaks of rioting, looting and violence while Indonesia is going through a difficult period of hardship and transition which has generated tensions. We urge all parties to show restraint and to refrain from violence.

Security forces have a responsibility to restore and maintain order, and we welcome the government's efforts to bring an end to the violence while accomplishing this mission. But security forces should act with due regard for the protection of human rights. We haven't received any reports of Americans endangered by this latest unrest.

QUESTION: On Panama, (inaudible) sent a letter to the Pentagon expressing his worries for the potential dominion of a Chinese company of the Canal of Panama. Do you have anything?

MR. RUBIN: Yes, we have seen no capability or interest on the part of the People's Republic of China, a major user of the Panama Canal, to disrupt its operations. We will maintain a close interest in Canal operations after transfer of the Canal to Panama on December 31, 1999.

The neutrality treaty provides a guarantee for the security of the Canal, although Panama's contract with the Hong Kong-based firm to operate two ports in the Canal was passed into law in January 1997, that law contains provisions ensuring that the Canal will remain open to vessels of all nations on an equal footing, following its transfer.

QUESTION: I have a related question to that. The foreign ministers of Central America have expressed support for the idea to have recognized Taiwan as an independent country. Do you have any reaction to that?

MR. RUBIN: I'm not familiar with all the foreign ministers of Central America making such a statement, but I will look into it.

QUESTION: (Inaudible) - in fact, switch the order for commercial jets? That came up a couple days ago. I'm wondering what --

MR. RUBIN: This morning I haven't seen a press report - back to Boeing?

QUESTION: No, no, back to Airbus.

MR. RUBIN: Oh, I thought that happened a week ago they went to Airbus.

QUESTION: You'd said it wasn't confirmed and there was no real comment.

MR. RUBIN: Right. I don't have any information on whether - I'm not aware that we believe that this is a decision other than on a commercial basis.

QUESTION: Somewhat related to that, on the Dalai Lama's visit to New York, I'm wondering if you have an answer to the question I asked yesterday about what his status is and what the State Department's plotting his every move.

MR. RUBIN: I surely do; I surely have an answer to that question. The Dalai Lama is visiting the United States in his capacity as a religious and spiritual leader. US Government representatives meet with him in this capacity and not as a head of state. Any meetings we have, again, are in his capacity as a religious and a spiritual leader.

The US Government is not involved in the Dalai Lama's schedule or plans. My understanding is that the Dalai Lama will not be traveling to Washington on this trip. Special Coordinator for Tibetan Issues Julia Taft will be meeting with the Dalai Lama in New York on Friday. And that meeting will be in the Dalai Lama's capacity as a spiritual and religious figure.

QUESTION: So they'll be discussing spiritual matters?

(Laughter.)

MR. RUBIN: She's a very spiritual woman, Julia.

QUESTION: Does this mean that basically he's getting the same treatment that someone like the Pope would get?

MR. RUBIN: I don't know the exact protocol, but certainly the Pope is a religious leader. Also there is a fact that the Vatican has its own special status. So I'm not sure it's precisely the same. But certainly both the Pope and the Dalai Lama are spiritual and religious leaders.

QUESTION: Jamie, do you have any sympathy for the aspirations of the Tibetan people besides their spiritual interests?

MR. RUBIN: Our position on that hasn't changed.

QUESTION: The agenda for the meeting Friday - what sort of things will they be discussing?

MR. RUBIN: I think that in the past the Special Coordinator for Tibet has worked with the Dalai Lama and others to try to encourage dialogue between the Dalai Lama and the government of China in order to protect the heritage and rights of the people who live in Tibet.

QUESTION: What about the whereabouts of the Panchan Lama?

MR. RUBIN: I think that regularly comes up. I'd have to check with Julia Taft whether that is a subject for this meeting. It's not something that comes up every meeting, but it does come up.

QUESTION: I'm sure you don't have it there, but if you all do have an opinion as to his safety and whereabouts, if you could get that.

MR. RUBIN: We'll try to get that for you.

QUESTION: Jamie, can you just address how or if it's somewhat politically difficult when the Dalai Lama comes to the US for the Administration trying to sort of not make China angry as well as balance the other issues involving the Tibetan people?

MR. RUBIN: Well, the objective of our diplomacy in many cases is to balance the national interests of the United States with respect to other countries and the national interests of the United States to promote human rights and respect for human rights and religious freedom and cultural heritage around the world. Balancing those two national interests is something that we here in the Department do every day.

QUESTION: You won't say every time the Dalai Lama comes it poses somewhat of difficulties for the Administration?

MR. RUBIN: Those are times when these two interests need to be particularly balanced.

QUESTION: Does the US feel that the Dalai Lama has a legitimate claim?

MR. RUBIN: I think we feel that the spiritual and cultural heritage of the people in Tibet is important to us. We do support the preservation of the unique religious, cultural and linguistic heritage of the Tibetan people and greater protection for their human rights. We certainly have great respect for the Dalai Lama as a spiritual leader.

We do regard Tibet, however, as a part of China. That has been a position we've had since roughly 1942. We do not recognize the Tibetan Government in exile as a sovereign entity, but we do believe that restoration of a dialogue between China and the Dalai Lama is an important component of a peaceful solution to diffuse tensions. That's why we've encouraged direct substantive dialogue between the Chinese Government and the Dalai Lama or his representatives as the best way to resolve these differences.

We have no blueprint in mind and would welcome any formula agreed to by the two parties.

QUESTION: Sovereignty you seem to --

MR. RUBIN: Well, we regard Tibet as a part of China; that is our view.

QUESTION: They can talk about how Tibet fits into a Chinese state.

MR. RUBIN: They could talk about ways to protect all of that --

QUESTION: With protection of cultural --

MR. RUBIN: -- and whatever they could agree to would be fine with us.

QUESTION: (Inaudible) - Yossi Bailin is here and I wondered if he had finished his meeting with the Secretary in time for you to get sort of a handle on what went on. Perhaps terrorism came up because he is the justice minister.

MR. RUBIN: Yes. The Secretary did have a meeting - roughly 45 minutes long - with Mr. Bailin. They had an opportunity to review a number of bilateral issues that he will be discussing with the Attorney General, including things related to intellectual property rights, as well as other matters between us and the United States.

In addition, they also discussed the peace process as would be expected; he's a member of a new government and we respect that new government's views and sought his opinion as to the directions the peace process was taking. They also discussed the importance of the legal committee pursuant to the Wye River agreement getting up and running. They also discussed the importance the United States attaches to the prosecution of terrorists who are responsible for terrorist incidents that killed Americans - another subject I expect to be raised at the Attorney General's meeting.

QUESTION: Did they discuss or did the Secretary inquire into the release by the Palestinian Authority of Hamas leaders and whether that violates the Wye Accords; did that come up?

MR. RUBIN: I don't know. I wasn't in the whole meeting so I don't know the answer to that question.

QUESTION: Pollard?

MR. RUBIN: Sorry?

QUESTION: Jonathan Pollard - on the other side - Jonathan Pollard?

MR. RUBIN: Normally that is a subject that only comes up by prime ministers in their discussions with the President. It's not a subject that normally comes up in most of the meetings I've been in with the Secretary on the Middle East. For many, many years now I've rarely heard it come up. It does regularly come up by the prime ministers of Israel in their meetings with the President.

QUESTION: Jamie, do you find that the Clinton Administration is more involved in the Israeli-Palestinian talks now than you might have thought a month ago when there was all the chatter about them wanting to do it on their own and not --

MR. RUBIN: No, on the contrary we find that most of the discussions that are going on are bilateral, direct discussions between the Israelis and the Palestinians. They have been meeting regularly. We continue to get reports of such meetings and we believe that there is a lot of good discussions going on directly. I would say it's about what we expected, which is that there would be a lot of direct dialogue between the Israelis and the Palestinians with an open question as to how far that dialogue would get. But certainly we think it's a good thing in principle for these issues to be dealt with through direct discussions.

QUESTION: Jamie, do you remember - can I just follow on that subject? Do you remember when -- roughly speaking, you'll find this a fair enough summary - when the scorecard here as to Palestinian compliance to the terrorism provisions was good, could do better, though, was basically the US appraisal? I wonder if you could bring us up to date now. There's a new Israeli Government and I don't know their stance particularly. It might be different from the previous government. But the US must have an opinion.

MR. RUBIN: Right, I don't believe there's been a significant or substantive change in our view dramatically one way or the other.

QUESTION: There have been little outbreaks recently of incidents, and I just wondered.

MR. RUBIN: Right, I would point out that those incidents have not involved the kind of capabilities that we saw in the past that were so dangerous.

QUESTION: Does the State Department have a reaction to the UNHCR study on how nine years of sanctions have affected the health of --

MR. RUBIN: Yes, I do have a reaction to that UN study. The United States is very concerned about the death of children in Iraq. That's one reason why we support the oil-for-food program and have consistently emphasized food, medicine and the rapid delivery under that program. The report on the mortality rates of children in Iraq indicates that rates are declining in the autonomous northern regions, which is under the same sanctions regime as the rest of Iraq but where oil-for-food delivery is managed by the United Nations. In contrast, the report shows Iraqi failure to deliver humanitarian aid in South and Central Iraq has led to a doubling of the child mortality rate.

The clearest conclusion to be drawn, therefore, is that the oil-for-food program is working in the regions where it is allowed to work freely. We are committed to working with the UN and others to ensure that conditions for all Iraqis improve. We support UNICEF's work in Iraq. The bottom line is that if Saddam Hussein would not continue to horde medicines and capabilities to assist the children of Iraq, they wouldn't have this problem. So clearly, the blame for the suffering of the Iraqi people falls squarely on the shoulders of its tyrannical leader.

QUESTION: Well, that's not what Ms. Bellamy had to say. She said the blame falls squarely on both Saddam Hussein and on the sanctions.

MR. RUBIN: Right, and you may continue your dialogue with Ms. Bellamy as much as you want.

It is our view that the fact that in Northern Iraq, the infant morality rate is improving with the same sanctions regime under the rest of Iraq shows that in places where Saddam Hussein isn't manipulating the medicines and the supplies, that this works.

We can't solve a problem that is the result of tyrannical behavior by the regime in Baghdad. They are responsible for their people. We can work very hard to put the maximum pressure on them; we can provide oil-for-food programs; we can provide medicines, et cetera. But if Saddam Hussein is going to restrict that medicine to his own people, then he is responsible. That is our view.

QUESTION: So you disagree with her?

MR. RUBIN: I've just described our view.

QUESTION: New subject. Anything new from yesterday relating to the conflict in Dagestan? There's been some rather heavy Russian military involvement.

MR. RUBIN: Yes, we continue to follow this very closely and there continue to be armed clashes between Russian Federation authorities and armed groups there. The insurgents have declared that their leader, the notorious outlaw Shamil Basayev, Chechnyan President Maskhadov disowned the actions of these groups and declared they do not have the sanction of the Chechnyan Government.

Russian authorities continue to assert that they will succeed in dislodging the insurgents but cautioned that it may take time. The casualty reports vary widely and we, as I said, continue to follow them.

We must, however, again condemn action by armed groups from Chechnya against lawful authority and innocent civilians in Dagestan, which has resulted in significant loss of life. However, we also underscore the importance for all concerned to act responsibly and to respect human rights. We urge all parties to refrain from indiscriminate or disproportionate use of force which could harm innocent civilians.

QUESTION: Has the US been in touch specially with the Russian Government on this? Because I wonder - take some time now to put it down - the initial hubris from Moscow was that they would squelch this thing real quick. Also, does the US have any basis for believing or disbelieving the Chechnyans are not involved in this? It's their disavowal but that --

MR. RUBIN: But Barry, I indicated also the field commander - a Chechan, Shamil Basayev - is saying and is part of this operation. What the president is saying is that he's disowning the actions of groups within Chechnya.

Now, with respect to our contact, yes, we're in regular contact with the Russian Government on this subject, including every day, because it's a subject of concern to us. But as far as what their views are, they're not much different than what the Russians have said publicly.

We're watching it closely; we're concerned. We've sent clear messages on both sides in condemning the unlawful actions and urging that all sides refrain from disproportionate use of force that can harm civilians.

QUESTION: Trying to figure out what to make of it will take time, which sounds a little more --

MR. RUBIN: That's what they're saying.

QUESTION: Yes, but, initially they were saying it would be over - I forgot their --

QUESTION: Two weeks.

QUESTION: -- two weeks and they --

MR. RUBIN: Right, and now they're saying it may take time, meaning longer than that.

QUESTION: Meaning what - meaning it's tough going; meaning --

MR. RUBIN: Meaning that it's difficult to dislodge these rebels in these outlying areas; yes, it's difficult.

QUESTION: Do you think there ought to be some discussion between the rebels and the Russian Government?

MR. RUBIN: I don't know that we have a view on that, and I will check. I'm not sure that we have a view every time - first of all, our view is that the use of force against innocent civilians is troubling. On the other hand, we recognize that there have been actions taken by known terrorist leaders who conducted terrorist actions against the lawful authorities. So it's a complicated situation for that reason.

QUESTION: Do you have anything today on the Cambodian Parliament's decision on the Khmer Rouge trials, especially in light of the fact that the UN team is going there at the end of this month to present the proposals to the Tribunal?

MR. RUBIN: Yes, with respect to this law, let me point out that the law -- we understand it, under current Cambodian law, Ta Mok could only be charged on charges of violating a 1994 law outlawing the Khmer Rouge and that such a trial would necessarily focus on his activities since 1994. We also understand that charges under this law could not be brought against Duch, who left the Khmer Rouge before 1994. So the change in the law doesn't make it impossible for there to be the kind of trial that we're looking for. On the contrary, it might have forced an early trial in a way that I indicated.

Let me just get it all out and then you can pick at it. We believe that credible justice would be best achieved if senior Khmer Rouge leaders were brought before an international tribunal endorsed by the UN. We are continuing our ongoing consultations with the Cambodian Government and in the United Nations on this issue. We hope that these discussions will soon lead to credible justice for the gross violations of international humanitarian law during the 1975-79 period. Our principal objective is to seek credible justice for that period. We will continue to press for a speedy trial on these charges under international auspices, and we welcome efforts by the government of Cambodia to achieve accountability for these crimes.

QUESTION: That first bit there about the change in the law not really being much of a concern - I ask if you could re-look into that again because I don't think someone has done their particular research exactly. Because even the UN has come out against this in saying that not only does it make is less likely that these people will ever be brought to trial given their advanced age, but also it makes it unfair to them to be held in jail, basically, with no hearing at all for three years. Does the United States support that?

MR. RUBIN: That's a domestic matter for the Cambodians as far as that aspect is concerned.

QUESTION: Well, certainly you believe in the idea that trials should be speedy and fair and just?

MR. RUBIN: If the answer to this question will in any way make the trial of these butchers less likely, I don't want to answer it.

QUESTION: (Inaudible) - one big trial of everyone. I may be wrong; I didn't read the story that closely. If that's so, do you think justice can be served if all these butchers, as you call them, are tried at one time, or would that even be fair to them? I mean, they do have rights as well.

MR. RUBIN: We think the UN proposal is quite a constructive idea - a way to resolve a very difficult issue. It's a UN idea that they are putting forward; we think it's quite constructive. There are always going to be different concerns and different sides of this situation. But so far there's been no trials and so getting trials is important. Having an opportunity for the people responsible for these massive violations of international humanitarian law is important to us. We think the UN proposal for a mixed group of judges is a constructive idea and we're working within the UN system to be supportive of it.

QUESTION: What was that?

MR. RUBIN: To be supportive of it.

QUESTION: So it's not perfect but it's something.

MR. RUBIN: It's a constructive idea.

QUESTION: Cuba - (inaudible) - Spanish company apparently has received a letter of intention by the State Department saying that they are in violation of Chapter IV of the Helms-Burton law. They are saying if the law applies to them, they are going to support laws by the Spanish Government against the United States in terms of business between the two countries.

MR. RUBIN: The Department reviews a broad range of economic activity in Cuba for the possible application of sanctions under Title IV. To protect the integrity of this process, we studiously avoid commenting on an individual case that may or may not be under review.

QUESTION: I actually have the same subject. The State Department has already announced last month that it was investigating the Sol --

MR. RUBIN: I don't know that we made an announcement. Some people who may not respect the -

QUESTION: (Inaudible.)

MR. RUBIN: That says the name of the company?

QUESTION: Maybe in response to a question about the name of the company. There's a catchall --

MR. RUBIN: Right, but see, we try to respect the integrity of this process so we studiously avoid commenting formally on an individual case that may or may not be under review.

QUESTION: (Inaudible.)

MR. RUBIN: I don't know; I'll have to check that.

QUESTION: Can I say formally thank you? Do you have more?

QUESTION: With Cuba, but not with the issue.

MR. RUBIN: We'll do another Cuba issue.

QUESTION: Today there is an editorial in The Washington Post saying that the Clinton Administration has to improve the relations with Cuba in terms of -- in the war against narco-traffickers. Have you been saying that the Cuban Government by itself is doing a good job against narco-traffickers? Do you remember you mentioned cases when they give cooperation to the DEA agents? Do you consider Cuba as an ally in the war against drugs?

MR. RUBIN: That sounds like a land mine kind of question for me so I'm going to check with the experts.

QUESTION: There are new reports in China that they are mobilizing more troops against Taiwan. I wanted to know if you have a comment on that.

MR. RUBIN: I'm not aware there's been any change in our view since yesterday, which was that we have not seen that kind of - what I said yesterday holds; I wouldn't want to screw up the words.

QUESTION: I'm sure you all are aware that today is the 50th anniversary of the Geneva Conventions?

MR. RUBIN: As a matter of fact, we are.

QUESTION: (Inaudible.)

MR. RUBIN: So just throw it out.

QUESTION: Do you have anything to say about that?

MR. RUBIN: Yes. The International Committee of the Red Cross organized a ceremony held in Geneva today commemorating the 50th anniversary of the Geneva Convention. Our charge attended for the United States. The Geneva Conventions are the most significant international instruments ever designed to defend human dignity in war.

As the community of nations has grown in the past five decades, so too has the number of nations that have ratified these conventions. Today they are among the most universally recognized treaties in the world. We are committed to the conventions and to their crucial role in respecting and protecting human dignity and fostering respect for all victims of armed conflict.

QUESTION: Do you think they should be amended to deal with television lights in the briefing room?

(Laughter.)

With them beating on the back of my neck now, may I say thank you and it's also Christie Mathewson's birthday.

(The briefing concluded at 1:35 P.M.)


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