Greek Government Press Briefing, 09-12-08

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Tmhma Dhmosiografikwn Kalycewn

Trith, 8 Dekembrioy 2009

Ariqmos Deltioy: 239477247

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KYBERNHTIKOS EKPROSWPOS

Aqhna, 8 Dekembrioy 2009

GIWRGO PETALWTH

Kalhmera.

O Prwqypoyrgos synexizei ayth thn wra, ton kyklo diadoxikwn synergasiwn me toys ypoyrgoys ths kybernhshs, me antikeimeno, qemata armodiothtas toys, kaqws kai thn proetoimasia gia ton koinwniko dialogo.

Zhthsame kai oi polites mas edwsan isxyrh entolh, na efarmosoyme to sxedio mas gia thn ejodo ths xwras apo thn krish. Yposxeqhkame oti, se kaqe periptwsh, qa epidiwjoyme th megisth dynath politikh kai koinwnikh synainesh gia tis megales allages kai tomes poy prepei na ginoyn. Oti qa qesoyme sto trapezi toy koinwnikoy dialogoy, ola ta megala zhthmata poy apasxoloyn apo xronia thn ellhnikh koinwnia kai den mporoyn pleon na meinoyn krymmena katw apo to xali.

H kybernhsh den epidiwkei dialogo gia to dialogo. Den qeloyme ena dialogo prosxhmatiko, oyte qeloyme na xrhsimopoihsoyme to dialogo ws alloqi gia na apempolhsoyme tis eyqynes mas. Epizhtoyme ena dialogo oysiastiko, anoikto sthn koinwnia, epikentrwmeno se stoxoys, protaseis kai qeseis sta megala zhthmata poy apasxoloyn thn koinwnia kai zhtoyn lyseis.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

PETOYRH: Qa hqela na epanelqw sto qema toy asyloy. Me xqesines ths dhlwseis h ypoyrgos Paideias tonise oti prepei na akoysei h kybernhsh kai th gnwmh twn prytanewn. Afhnete, loipon, anoixto to endexomeno sthn periptwsh poy oi prytaneis symfwnhsoyn h akomh perissotero sas to zhthsoyn, to endexomeno na arqei to asylo;

PETALWTHS: Nomizw oti exoyme jekaqarisei oti qema allaghs gia to asylo, den yfistatai. Yfistatai qema efarmoghs toy hdh yfistamenoy nomikoy plaisioy gia to asylo. H ypoyrgos Paideias kyria Diamantopoyloy htan isws h prwth ypoyrgos, h opoia dhlwse sxetika oti yparxei synexhs epafh me tis prytanikes arxes kai oti qa yposthrijei tis arxes kai tis epiloges twn prytanikwn arxwn. Gia mas, einai qema efarmoghs toy asyloy.

GIANNISHS: Se apogeymatinh efhmerida shmera anaferetai oti o neos proedros toy Kthmatologioy exei syggenikh sxesh me ton yfypoyrgo k. Maniath. Apotelei qema ayto gia thn kybernhsh;

PETALWTHS: Yparxei ena dhmosieyma, sto opoio ws kybernhsh apantame: Prwta ap` ola, h epilogh toy k. Arbanith, toy proedroy toy Dioikhtikoy Symboylioy toy Kthmatologioy, den egine apo ton k. Maniath, egine apo thn armodia ypoyrgo k. Mpirmpilh. Den exei kamia anameijh o k. Maniaths. O k. Maniaths, otan plhroforhqhke oti egine h epilogh, enhmerwse thn k. Mpirmpilh gia th sxesh poy yparxei metajy toys, qetontas qema oti mporei na yparjei kapoia parermhneia. Parola ayta, epeidh o k. Arbaniths epelegh, mesw ths anoixths diadikasias epiloghs stelexwn, me ena ajiologotato biografiko, h armodia ypoyrgos ekrine oti den synista aitia ypanaxwrhshs, logw ths yfistamenhs sxeshs. Oytws h allws, gia to parempipton zhthma oti h syzygos toy, opws anaferei to dhmosieyma, symmetexei se kataskeyastikh etaireia, prin apo thn analhch ths proedrias apo ton k. Arbanith, exei apoxwrhsei apo thn etaireia kai kateqese to ptyxio ths. Edw exoyme na poyme oti h diafora poy exoyme me th Nea Dhmokratia einai terastia. Emeis anoigoyme th diadikasia epiloghs ajiwn stelexwn gia th dioikhsh. Den epilegoyme ta stelexh, me bash th syggenikh sxesh poy exoyn me proswpa kai ypoyrgoys kai fysika, den prokeitai na dexqoyme kamia ekmetalleysh tetoias sxeshs.

SIDERHS: Wstoso, kai etsi na einai opws ta lete, den isxyei gia esas kai den prepei na isxyei ayto gia th gynaika toy Kaisara;

PETALWTHS: Emeis, opws eipa prohgoymenws, exoyme anoijei th diadikasia. Mesw anoixths diadikasias epilegoyme ta stelexh kai den mporoyme na apokleioyme ajia stelexh gia tetoioys logoys, otan malista yparxei diarkhs kai dhmosios elegxos gia th symperifora toys.

SIDERHS: Ayto den einai apodeijimo, omws. Egkeitai sthn kalh sas qelhsh. Ekei mas parapempete.

PETALWTHS: H kybernhsh einai apofasismenh na thrhsei tis arxes gia tis opoies desmeythke prin apo tis ekloges kai desmeyetai mexri kai shmera.

XRISTOFILOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, pws sxoliazei h kybernhsh thn protash Trise gia meiwsh twn misqwn twn dhmosiwn ypallhlwn kai an perimenei h kybernhsh nea kerdoskopikh epiqesh;

PETALWTHS: Emeis exoyme qesei ola ekeina ta zhthmata kai olo ekeino to plaisio, etsi wste na mporoyme na fqasoyme sthn anatajh ths oikonomias, me koinwnikh dikaiosynh, koinwnikh synoxh kai koinwnikh allhleggyh. Sklhra metra qa paroyme mono, oson afora sth forodiafygh, oson afora se aytoys oi opoioi den plhrwnoyn o,ti ofeiloyn na plhrwsoyn sthn ellhnikh Politeia. Kai bebaia, gnwmonas mas einai h enisxysh twn asqenesterwn omadwn, twn adynamwn sympolitwn mas, etsi wste na elafrynqei h kaqhmerinothta toys.

GIANNISHS: Ayrio arxizei o dialogos gia to forologiko. O Prwqypoyrgos qa egkainiasei ayrio to dialogo ayto; Kai epipleon na rwthsw, qa balei h kybernhsh anwtato forologiko syntelesth, qa ton ayjhsei;

PETALWTHS: O dialogos gia to forologiko qa jekinhsei sto plaisio toy eyryteroy koinwnikoy dialogoy. Apo kei kai pera, qa teqoyn ola ta zhthmata, etsi wste na exoyme ena forologiko nomo, o opoios qa einai dikaios, o opoios qa apodidei esoda sthn ellhnikh Politeia gia na askhsei tis politikes ths yper toy aploy Ellhna polith. Kai fysika, qa akoloyqhsei mia diadikasia diaboyleyshs, prokeimenoy na proteinoyn oloi oi foreis, oloi oi polites, ola ta kommata, tis qeseis toys, prokeimenoy na proxwrhsoyme se ena eklogiko nomo poy qa empedwsei to aisqhma empistosynhs toy Ellhna polith pros thn Politeia. Alla kai na mporoyme epiteloys na anakthsoyme thn ajiopistia mas pros toys koinwnikoys mas etairoys, alla kai pros toys etairoys ths Eyrwpaikhs Enwshs.

KAMPOYRAKHS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, ta peri ajiokratikhs epiloghs, mh ekmetalleyshs opoiasdhpote syggenikhs sxeshs, isxyoyn kai gia to syzygo ths ypoyrgoy Paideias k. Sabalano, o opoios epishs epilexqhke ws melos toy neoy dioikhtikoy symboylioy ths ``Kthmatologio A.E.'';

PETALWTHS: Yphrje anakoinwsh toy idioy. To qema gia emas ejantleitai ekei.

TOYMASHS: Sth dhmosia dioikhsh o,ti einai nomimo, einai kai hqiko;

PETALWTHS: Emeis, exoyme deijei kai exoyme apodeijei ti ennooyme nomimothta kai ti ennooyme hqikh. Polles fores, kai ws antipoliteysh, eixame katakrinei th Nea Dhmokratia gia th synolikh ths politikh na stelexwnei th dhmosia dioikhsh, oxi aplws me tyxaioys syggeneis, alla na ginetai h epilogh me bash ayth th sxesh thn opoia ekmetalleyotan. Emeis, den qa epitrecoyme kati tetoio. Emeis eimaste aytoi poy anoigoyme tis diadikasies, xwris na enoxopoioyme omws opoiadhpote syggenikh sxesh.

GIANNISHS: O k. Tsipras eipe oti perissotero qymizoyn oi symperifores toy ypoyrgeioy Prostasias toy Polith, kybernhsh synergasias Neas Dhmokratias-LAOS, para kybernhsh PASOK. Pws to sxoliazete;

PETALWTHS: Ws pros thn prostasia toy polith, nomizw oti opoios kykloforei sthn Aqhna tis teleytaies hmeres, pragmatika blepei kai diapistwnei oti den exei kamia sxesh me o,ti eixame zhsei perysi. Blepei kai diapistwnei oti den katastrafhkan perioysies, den apeilhqhkan zwes kai ayto to trihmero elhje me ton kalytero tropo. Gia allh mia fora, qa epanalabw oti ayto poy mas endiaferei kai den qewroyme oti einai asymbibasto, alla einai akribws ayto to opoio tairiazei sthn prostasia toy polith, einai: Proaspish twn atomikwn politikwn dikaiwmatwn me empedwsh ths asfaleias toy Ellhna polith, poy to exei toso anagkh.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Thn prohgoymenh ebdomada synedriase to KTE toy PASOK gia qemata koinwnikhs asfalishs kai ergasias. Boyleytes toy PASOK dhlwnan oti to programma toy PASOK se o,ti afora to Asfalistiko gia to 2007, isxyei kai einai mesa stis qeseis poy qa kataqesei h kybernhsh. Isxyei kati tetoio;

PETALWTHS: Hdh shmera exei jekinhsei, se deyterh fash, h koinh synedriash ths Epitrophs twn Eidikwn, twn koinwnikwn etairwn kai ths politikhs hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy Ergasias kai Koinwnikhs Asfalishs. Topoqethqhkan sygkekrimena zhthmata, sygkekrimenoi ajones. Ekeino to krithrio, to opoio exoyme emeis, einai gia ena dikaio, biwsimo asfalistiko systhma, poy qa diasfalizei oxi mono thn allhleggyh twn genewn, alla kai thn epibiwsh toy syntajiodotikoy systhmatos twn hdh syntajioyxwn.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Oi qeseis toy PASOK toy 2007, opws eixan katateqei sto programma, isxyoyn gia thn kybernhsh;

PETALWTHS: Sas exw pei oti emeis anoigoyme ena poly megalo dialogo me toys koinwnikoys etairoys kai me oloys toys emplekomenoys foreis. Hdh, yparxoyn ta xronodiagrammata kai oi apofaseis mas qa fanoyn sto telos.

XRISTOFILOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, oi ergazomenoi ston Dhmo ths Aqhnas ejhggeilan 24wres epanalambanomenes apergies. Pws antimetwpizei h kybernhsh na kanoyme Xristoygenna mesa sta skoypidia;

PETALWTHS: Einai melhma mas, to opoio to ejetazoyme.

TZANETAKOS: O dialogos pote qa jekinhsei; O Prwqypoyrgos pote qa... ;

PETALWTHS: Entos twn hmerwn qa anakoinwqei to pws qa ginei h enarjh toy dialogoy.

TZANETAKOS: Mporei na paei kai thn allh ebdomada;

PETALWTHS: Qa anakoinwqei.

TOYMASHS: Epeidh oi anwnymes podosfairikes etaireies diaxeirizontai xrhmata toy ellhnikoy laoy, mesw twn epixorhghsewn, foroelafrynsewn, foroapallagwn, apasxolei thn kybernhsh h diaspaqish aytoy toy xrhmatos poy me th morfh ejygiantikwn oikonomikwn enesewn pollwn ekatommyriwn eyrw doqhkan  as poyme- sthn PAE AEK kai ta xrhmata toy ellhnikoy laoy eginan afanta; Se ayth th farsokwmwdia ths diaspaqishs toy laikoy xrhmatos, qa paramenei h kybernhsh aboylh, afwnh h apragh;

PETALWTHS: H kybernhsh exei balei ws stoxo thn peristolh ths terastias spatalhs, h opoia yparxei edw kai polla xronia kai h opoia epibarynei ton aplo Ellhna polith. Oles oi energeies kai oi apofaseis ths, kinoyntai me ayto to gnwmona, se ayto to plaisio.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Se sxesh me to forologiko nomosxedio einai stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs na ayjhsei ton syntelesth gia thn forologia twn kerdwn twn anwnymwn etaireiwn;

PETALWTHS: O dialogos gia to forologiko nomosxedio den exei jekinhsei akomh. Qa jekinhsei me ena sygkekrimeno plaisio. Ekei qa fanoyn kai oi qeseis mas.

QEODWROPOYLOS: Epeidh yparxei h desmeysh toy Prwqypoyrgoy apo th DEQ, oti den qa ayjhsei ton syntelesth sta kerdh twn epixeirhsewn, gi` ayto rwtaw. Isxyei ayth h desmeysh toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

PETALWTHS: Oi proeklogikes desmeyseis isxyoyn. O dialogos qa jekinhsei kai qa fanoyn kai oi qeseis mas.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Einai stis proqeseis ths kybernhshs na meiwsei h na sygxwneysei tis Genikes Grammateies;

PETALWTHS: Poies Genikes Grammateies;

MAKRYGIANNHS: Twn ypoyrgeiwn.

PETALWTHS: Opoy yparxei anagkh, mporei na meiwqoyn.

MAKRYGIANNHS: Kai pote qa oloklhrwqei ayth h diadikasia me tis topoqethseis twn Genikwn Grammatewn; Pote to blepete;

PETALWTHS: Opoy yparxei wrimothta, anakoinwnontai oi Genikoi Grammateis.

Sas eyxaristw.

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