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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 21 Aprilioy 2003

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy:

Ayth thn wra, exei syskech me toys synergates poy qa ton synodeysoyn sthn trihmerh periodeia toy se Filandia, Soyhdia kai Dania. Ws gnwston, anaxwrei shmera, arga to meshmeri. Feygontas qa probei se dhlwsh sto aerodromio, poy qa afora kyriws toys skopoys toy tajidioy toy, alla kai kapoia genikotera qemata.

Th M. Trith to prwi, qa synanthsei ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Filandias. Sth synexeia, qa metabei sth Stokxolmh, opoy exei synanthsh me to Soyhdo omologo toy, to apogeyma.

Th M. Tetarth to prwi, qa brisketai sth Dania, opoy qa synanthqei me to Dano omologo toy sthn Kopegxagh. Arga to apogeyma, o Prwqypoyrgos qa epistrecei sthn Aqhna.

Th M. Pempth to prwi, qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy gia to Kypriako, ta ellhnotoyrkika, kaqws kai qemata ths E.E.. Stis 12 to meshmeri, qa synanthqei me ton Proedro ths Boylhs A. Kaklamanh. To apogeyma ths idias hmeras, qa anaxwrhsei gia tis diakopes toy Pasxa, se perioxh ths Hleias (konta sto Korakoxwri).

Thn Prwtomagia, hmera Pempth, to brady, qa exei atyph, filikh synanthsh me ton Iapwna Prwqypoyrgo k. Koizoymi, o opoios qa brisketai sthn Aqhna. Thn Paraskeyh (2/5), stis 9 to prwi, qa ginei h epishmh synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, me thn idiothta toy proedreyontos ths E.E. me ton Iapwna omologo toy, paroysia ths politikhs hgesias toy ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn. Meta th synanthsh qa ginoyn dhlwseis. Sth 1 m.m., qa exei synanthsh me ton ypoyrgo Oikonomias kai Oikonomikwn N. Xristodoylakh, ton ypoyrgo ESDDA K. Skandalidh kai me ton yfypoyrgo Oikonomias X. Paxta, gia thn Koinwnia ths Plhroforias.

Th Deytera (5/5), stis 10 to prwi, qa parastei kai qa milhsei se ekdhlwsh sto Radiothleoptiko Kentro twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, paroysia toy ypoyrgoy Politismoy Ey. Benizeloy. Stis 11.30 to prwi, qa metabei sth Boylh, opoy qa exei synanthsh me tis Epitropes Eyrwpaikwn Ypoqesewn twn Koinoboyliwn twn kratwn-melwn ths E.E. Sth 1 m.m., qa episkefqei ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias K. Stefanopoylo.

Thn Trith (6/5), o Prwqypoyrgos qa anaxwrhsei gia megalh periodeia, mexri to Sabbato (10/5), stis Baltikes xwres (Esqonia, Liqoyania, Letonia), thn Polwnia, thn Oyggaria kai th Slobakia. Blepete oti exoyme ena idiaitera bebarhmeno programma, poy qa diarkesei peripoy mexri ta mesa toy Ioynioy.

Me thn eykairia ths shmerinhs apofradas epeteioy ths 21hs Aprilioy, qelw na tonisw kai pali -gia logoys istorikhs mnhmhs- oti o ellhnikos laos me thn antistash kai tis prospaqeies toy, me ton hrwiko jeshkwmo toy Polytexneioy, ekdhlwse me oloys toys tropoys thn antistash toy apenanti sth xoynta kai katorqwse na odhghsei sthn ptwsh ths kai thn epanodo ths Dhmokratias sthn Ellada. H Dhmokratia mas shmera den kindyneyei. Exei staqeres baseis. Bebaiws, antimetwpizei problhmata poiothtas, alla ginontai oles oi anagkaies kinhseis kai beltiwnetai synexws to qesmiko plaisio, prokeimenoy na mporesoyme na ta antimetwpisoyme. Se kaqe periptwsh, o ellhnikos laos prepei na qymatai pws ftasame sthn eptaxronh tyrannia, prepei na qymatai toys ypeyqynoys. H istorikh mnhmh einai xrhsimh, wste pantote se tetoies stigmes na stekomaste enwmenoi kai na enisxyoyme akomh perissotero thn poreia ths Dhmokratias mas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

PITTARAS: Epeidh jekinhsate me ayto to sxolio kai epeidh mallon anamenoyme kai thn afijh toy "nte Gkretsia" sthn Ellada gia to Pasxa...

PRWTOPAPAS: Exete tetoia plhroforia;

PITTARAS: Yparxei kapoio problhma, ean ayth th fora erqei me kapoio allo epiqeto;

PRWTOPAPAS: Profanws, xrhsimopoiei polla epiqeta o tews. Den gnwrizw, den exw kapoia sxetikh plhroforia. Opws gnwrizete, o kyrios aytos exei th dynatothta, me xrhsh ths Synqhkhs Sengken, na eiserxetai sthn Ellada. Den nomizw oti yparxei kapoio qema. Ejalloy, qa erqoyn polloi jenoi toyristes na perasoyn sthn Ellada tis diakopes toy Pasxa.

TSAKIRHS: Qa hqela to sxolio sas gia to shmerino prwtoselido ths "Ayrianhs", giati blepoyme oti xrhsimopoiei kapoioys sklhroys xarakthrismoys gia esas kai mila gia kapoia kaseta poy emfanizei ypoyrgo na "ladwnotan" apo gnwsto epixeirhmatia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa mpw se tetoioy eidoys dialogo poy qa ypobaqmize kai emas. Ayto einai safes. Den mporei na yparxei dialogos aytoy toy epipedoy. Ayto to epipedo tairiazei se alloys, oxi se mas. Oson afora ta ypoloipa, o k. Koyrhs exei th dynatothta na prosfygei stis armodies arxes, eite aytes einai dioikhtikes, eite einai eisaggelikes. Mporei na prosfygei kai na kataggeilei thn opoiadhpote paranomh prajh qewrei oti yparxei.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Kyrie ypoyrge, epeidh to prwi egine mia syskech -den gnwrizw bebaia tis leptomereies ths- qa hqela na moy peite, an epibebaiwnete tis plhrofories oti o Prwqypoyrgos einai idiaitera problhmatismenos apo thn troph poy exei parei ayth h syzhthsh, meta thn apopomph toy k. Malesioy kai me oles tis ekfanseis ths kai ean protiqetai na antidrasei politika, pleon, h kybernhsh se ayto to qema.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ti shmainei "politikh antidrash";

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Politikh antidrash paei na pei, kata thn apoch th dikh moy, alla nomizw kai arketwn allwn, oti thn prohgoymenh ebdomada poy to qema htan se ejarsh, yphrxe mia siwph gyrw apo ayto to qema@

PRWTOPAPAS: Hdh, sas eipa oti o Prwqypoyrgos qa probei se sxetikh anafora sth shmerinh dhlwsh toy, h opoia -na to jekaqarisw- den einai mono gia ayto to qema. Ton Prwqypoyrgo ton apasxoloyn ayth th stigmh polla kai sobara qemata poy exoyn na kanoyn me th genikoterh poreia ths xwras. Alla qa anaferqei kai se ayto, afoy einai qema epikairothtas.

TRIANTAFYLLOY: Qewrei dhladh h kybernhsh -kai pairnw aformh apo thn teleytaia frash sas- oti den einai toso sobaro ayto to zhthma poy shmera sympoliteyomenos kai antipoliteyomenos Typos to emfanizoyn ws meizonos shmasias kai malista oloi miloyn gia hqiko zhthma poy anakyptei gia thn kybernhsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Mporeite na moy peite ti ennoeite;

TRIANTAFYLLOY: To gegonos oti emfanizetai mia seira apo kybernhtika stelexh, kai malista stenoi synergates toy Prwqypoyrgoy, na exoyn emplakei se xrhmatisthriaka paixnidia kai na exoyn apokomisei megala kerdh apo to Xrhmatisthrio, otan o ellhnikos laos exase ta xrhmata toy..

PRWTOPAPAS: Mporeite na pate kai na cajete to "poqen esxes" olwn twn boyleytwn kai na eiste bebaioi oti qa diapistwsete oti para polloi boyleytes olwn twn kommatwn eixan ependysei sto Xrhmatisthrio. Ta dhlwnan, den ekryban tipota apo kanenan. Epeidh akribws dhmioyrghqhke tote mia perirreoysa atmosfaira gyrw apo to qema ths dynatothtas na empleketai opoiodhpote kybernhtiko stelexos se tetoia zhthmata, o Prwqypoyrgos elabe thn prwtoboylia kai efere sth Boylh ena nomo, me ton opoio apagoreysame stoys ypoyrgoys na kanoyn ependyseis sto Xrhmatisthrio. Kai o nomos threitai aparegklita. H syzhthsh, poy dikaiologhse ayth thn tomh, exei ginei sth Boylh, me dikh mas prwtoboylia. Aytos o nomos exei odhghsei se apagoreysh symmetoxhs ypoyrgwn kai kybernhtikwn stelexwn sthn ependytikh drasthriothta, edw kai tria xronia. Ara to qema ayto exei kleisei. An yparxei kamia paranomh prajh - mexri twra den exei diapistwqei - qa kataggelqei kai opoios qelei na thn kataggeilei na prosfygei ston Eisaggelea, stis dioikhtikes arxes kai opoy alloy dikaioytai na prosfygei. Exoyme pei oti opoio kybernhtiko stelexos -apo thn ereyna poy qa ginei kai thn ejetash twn kataggeliwn- diapistwqei oti empleketai se paranomh prajh, qa ypostei tis synepeies.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Qa hqela na rwthsw, an yparxei hqiko qema gia thn kybernhsh meta apo aytes tis kataggelies. Mas eipate oti paranomes prajeis den yparxoyn. Hqiko qema yparxei;

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh, dia toy Prwqypoyrgoy, phre thn prwtoboylia to 2000 kai ekane ena qesmiko plaisio poy apagoreyse se ypoyrgoys kai kybernhtika stelexh na asxoloyntai me xrhmatisthriakes synallages. Ayto egine to 2000 kai to qema poy syzhthqhke tote, eixe na kanei me ena fainomeno to opoio eixe apo oloys diapistwqei. Me thn chfo olwn, ekleise ayth h dynatothta. Diapistwqhke kati, ayto den htan paranomo, htan gnwsto kai aforoyse para polloys politikoys. Opoiosdhpote mporei na dei ta "poqen esxes". Prin apo ayth thn katastash poy diapistwqhke kai h opoia htan apolytws nomimh, qewrhse o Prwqypoyrgos oti qelei na kanei mia symplhrwmatikh parembash, thn ekane kai to qema elhje. An kapoios bebaiws thn parabiasei, qa ypostei tis synepeies. An den eixame kanei to nomo, an den eixame pei oti oi ypoyrgoi kai ta kybernhtika stelexh den qa emplekontai se xrhmatisthriakes synallages, safws qa mporoyse na teqei qema.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Kai tote, giati olos aytos o qorybos kai h anataraxh mesa sto PASOK; Eidame dhlwseis stelexwn toy PASOK poy lene "apolyth diafaneia eipe o Grammateas" kai diafora alla.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyn apolyto dikio. Einai kako na zhtaei kaneis apolyth diafaneia; To eipa kai egw. An o opoiosdhpote, o tade h o deina ekdoths qewrei oti exei kataggelia gia paranomh prajh kai stoixeia poy aforoyn kapoio stelexos toy Kinhmatos, na ta paradwsei ston Eisaggelea, na kriqoyn kai an apodeixqei paranomia, na ypostei to stelexos tis synepeies. Ayto den einai to swsto;

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Eseis mas lete gia ena qema to opoio ekleise kai gia to opoio o Prwqypoyrgos, tesseris meres meta kai mia apomakrynsh ypoyrgoy, qa bgei na kanei politikh topoqethsh. Pws ekleise to qema, otan exei dhmioyrghsei tetoia anastatwsh sthn kybernhsh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kat' arxas, den blepw kanena qema poy na apeilei thn kybernhsh. As mhn emfanizoyme pragmata poy den yparxoyn. O Prwqypoyrgos epishmainei panta thn anagkh diafaneias kai nomimothtas. Einai pagia arxh toy kai pagio endiaferon toy: Diafaneia kai nomimothta pantoy. Opoios diaqetei stoixeia, na ta paradwsei stis armodies arxes kai an apodeixqei gia kapoion enoxh, qa ypostei tis synepeies. Den exoyme na krycoyme tipota apo kanenan.

GARGALAKOS: H noshrh ayth perirreoysa atmosfaira poy exei diamorfwqei den apeilei thn politikh staqerothta kai den qa eprepe na anhsyxei thn kybernhsh, wste na parei metra gia na thn anatrecei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws, merikes fores, dhmioyrgeitai noshrh atmosfaira. Gia paradeigma, diabasame se dhmosieymata toy Sabbatoy oti ypoyrgoi kai boyleytes piezan gia thn asfaleia twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn. Oydeis piese gia to qema ayto kai oydeis dexqhke h anexthke piesh. O opoiosdhpote as apeyqynqei sto Ypoyrgeio Eqnikhs Amynas na maqei. Apo kei kai pera, safws dhmioyrgeitai perirreoysa atmosfaira, h opoia omws qa antimetwpistei, toso me th shmerinh dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy, h opoia qa einai safhs, oso kai me opoies alles energeies xreiastei na ejelixqoyn amesa.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: H kybernhsh ektima oti ayto to qema proekyce ws synepeia polemoy epixeirhmatikwn symferontwn; Oti yparxoyn kapoia politika kentra ta opoia epixeiroyn na to ekmetalleytoyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den xreiazetai idiaiterh filosofia gia na katalabei kaneis oti yparxei polemos epixeirhmatikwn symferontwn. Einai apolytws oratos. Mporeite na parathrhsete thn ejelijh toy toys teleytaioys mhnes. Opoios einai kakopistos, ton kaloyme na parakoloyqhsei apo to jekinhma toys ayta ta qemata kai qa peisqei apolytws. An omws kapoioi prospaqoyn na to ekmetalleyqoyn, afhnw na ejagete ta dika sas symperasmata. Apo thn pleyra moy, tekmhriwnw panta me apodeijeis ayta poy lew.

KANELLOPOYLOS: Hqela na sas rwthsw, ean o ypoyrgos Epikrateias k. Manikas kai to melos toy Ektelestikoy Grafeioy k. Neonakhs apolambanoyn ths empistosynhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai safes, dioti alliws qa yphrxe kati allo.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Yparxoyn, omws, kentra ta opoia trofodotoyn ayth thn perirreoysa atmosfaira;

PRWTOPAPAS: Milw panta otan exw na pw kati tekmhriwmeno.

KWNSTANTHS: Epeidh exoyn arxisei na akoygontai diafora onomata synadelfwn sas kai polles fores akoygontai epi dikaiwn kai adikwn ayta, mhpws skeftetai o Prwqypoyrgos na prolabei kapoies dysmenesteres ejelijeis kai na kanei kapoia kaqarsh, kapoion anasxhmatismo;

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia na ginei kaqarsh, shmainei oti yparxoyn enoxoi poy einai sthn kybernhsh. Exei apodeixqei kamia enoxh;

KWNSTANTHS: Oxi etsi, opws to lete. Alla, epeidh akoygontai polla onomata kai dhmioyrgeitai ena noshro klima.

PRWTOPAPAS: Dhladh, kaqe fora poy akoygetai ena onoma apo kapoion, aytos einai qesfato, exei ginei eisaggeleas, dikasths, Areios Pagos kai exei apofasisei; Kai eseis mporeite ayrio na bgeite sthn efhmerida sas kai na gracete oti o " X " einai klefths. Shmainei oti einai;

KWNSTANTHS: Epeidh einai gnwsth h eyaisqhsia toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia tetoia qemata kai to exei apodeijei se olh ayth thn eptaxronh qhteia toy...

PRWTOPAPAS: Mporeite, loipon, eseis kai alloi pente synadelfoi sas, edw, na kaqorizete th synqesh ths kybernhshs, symfwnwntas metajy sas na kanete mia kataggelia, kaqe mera. Ayto moy lete twra.

KWNSTANTHS: Oxi, bebaia. Alla, epeidh syndeqhke to qema toy Xrhmatisthrioy me mia periodo politikwn paigniwn, opws exei eipwqei...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yphrje kanena politiko paignio.

KWNSTANTHS: Qymaste thn ypoqesh ths DEKA proeklogika synetelese isws kai sthn epikrathsh toy PASOK, giati jeroyme, me ena pososto 1% kai me 70.000 ...

PRWTOPAPAS: Den synetelese ayto sthn epikrathsh toy PASOK. Sas parakalw poly, exei kai oria ayth h istoria!

KWNSTANTHS: Me sygxwreite, alla exei akoystei ayto sth Boylh.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epanalambanw, kamia ypoqesh ths DEKA kai kanena qema Xrhmatisthrioy den eixe sxesh me thn epikrathsh toy PASOK. As stamathsei ayth h spekoyla.

KWNSTANTHS: Den to exete akoysei pote ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: To exw akoysei apo th N.D. Kai otan egine eisaggelikh ereyna, ayth h ypoqesh epese sto keno. Den shmainei oti isxyei o,ti leei kaqenas. Me th logikh sas qa eprepe na synennohqeite me alloys treis edw kai na rijete thn kybernhsh, dioti to eipate. Kai poy to eipate; O kaqenas apo mas einai gnwstos. Kai ton jeroyme poios einai. Einai oloi poly gnwstoi gia thn entimothta toys. Kai an xreiastei na poyme perissotera, qa poyme.

KWNSTANTHS: Kai kati gia ton anasxhmatismo: Gnwrizete ean o Prwqypoyrgos qa topoqethsei kapoion sth qesh toy ypoyrgoy Dhmosias Tajhs;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qa topoqethsei argotera.

TSAKIRHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, an dhlwseis opws toy typoy "qa toys liwsoyme", opws ekane proedros omadas, sygkekrimena o k. Kokkalhs, proedros toy Olympiakoy, qewreite oti symbaloyn sthn omalh diejagwgh toy Prwtaqlhmatos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Otan ginw proedros ths EPAE, qa sas apanthsw.

TSAKIRHS: Na to rwthsw alliws: Dynamitizoyn thn atmosfaira;

PRWTOPAPAS: Prepei na eimaste cyxraimoi. To podosfairo einai ena laiko spor kai apaitei stash eyqynhs. Qelei idiaiterh prosoxh apo oloys, wste na einai pragmatika giorth kai na mhn paroysiazontai fainomena, opws ekeina poy mas talanisan sto parelqon. Qelw na pisteyw oti oloi osoi asxoloyntai me to podosfairo exoyn ayth thn proqesh kai toys kalw pragmatika na symbaloyn, wste oi agwnes na einai mia giorth kai na xairontai oi polites kai oi oikogeneies toys.

PITTARAS: Gia ta "xrysa koritsia";

PRWTOPAPAS: Na poyme qerma sygxarhthria sta "xrysa koritsia". Mas kanoyn oloys yperhfanoys kai idiaitera aisiodojoys gia polla metallia, enocei twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn.

Logw twn eortwn toy Pasxa, h epomenh politikh enhmerwsh qa ginei stis 5 Maioy.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalh Anastash kai Kalo Pasxa.

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