Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-10-18

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 18 Oktwbrioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Na eyxhqw se oloys kalh chfo thn Kyriakh. Oytws h allws einai h wra toy laoy, h wra poy oi polites qa eklejoyn toys Nomarxes kai Dhmarxoys poy epiqymoyn kai qa exoyme thn eykairia, th Deytera, na ejagoyme oloi xrhsima symperasmata.

Parakalw tis erwthseis sas.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, thn wra poy o Proedros ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias Glaykos Klhridhs brisketai sthn Aqhna gia para poly spoydaies kai shmantikes synomilies me ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo, toyrkika maxhtika aeroskafh oplismena me pyrayloys aeros-aeros anaxaitisan, an qelete, xrhsimopoiw th lejh, xqes to brady sto kentriko Aigaio ellhniko elikoforo aeroskafos me 36 epibates poy ekteloyse pthsh apo Xio pros Aqhna. Einai mia aparadekth proklhsh apo thn pleyra ths Toyrkias kai qa hqela na kanete ena sxolio.

PRWTOPAPAS: Epibebaiwnw to sxetiko dhmosieyma. Einai pragmati mia aparadekth energeia poy egine apo toyrkikhs pleyras. Qelw na pw, bebaiws, oti yphrje amesws h apanthsh apo ellhnika polemika aeroskafh, poy anaxaitisan to toyrkiko. Egine, hdh, diamartyria apo to ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn kai qa ginei diamartyria kai apo thn Politikh Aeroporia, sth Dieqnh Politikh Aeroporia, thn ICAO. Th qewrw ws mia aparadekth energeia, se mia idiaitera eyaisqhth periodo.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Hqela na sas rwthsw ean gnwrizete oti sthn arxh ths proeklogikhs periodoy, otan arxisan na proballontai ta diafhmistika ``spot'' toy k. Papoytsh, egine parembash apo thn ka Mpakogiannh ston ypoyrgo Eswterikwn gia na stamathsoyn ayta ta ``spot''.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exw ypoch moy kamia parembash apo kanenan gia thn oysia twn ``spot''. Teqhke ena erwthma, sthn arxh ths proeklogikhs periodoy, apo oloys mas, ean yparxei efarmogh toy nomoy gia thn proeklogikh periodo stis boyleytikes ekloges kai eyrwekloges kai gia tis topikes kai nomarxiakes ekloges. Ekeino poy diapistwqhke einai oti epeidh den kalyptei o nomos rhta aytes tis ekloges, yphrxe opwsdhpote mia megalyterh eyelijia, sto qema ths politikhs diafhmishs h sto qema ths diafhmishs twn topikwn h nomarxiakwn ypochfiwn. Ayto to eixame syzhthsei, ean qymaste, kai kata thn enarjh ths proeklogikhs periodoy. Eixa dexqei sxetiko erwthma sthn enhmerwsh poy eixe ginei sta Giannena kai eixa apanthsei oti yparxei nomiko keno, wstoso, qa prepei oloi na prosejoyn ta zhthmata ths deontologias kai ths symperiforas toys me ayta ta ``spot''. Den yphrje kati allo, se kamia periptwsh.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Ayto to erwthma poy lete eixe ginei apo thn ka Mpakogiannh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, eixe teqei apo polloys thleoptikoys staqmoys kai eteqh kai apo to ESR, ean qymaste. Gia thn ka Mpakogiannh, den gnwrizw ean to epraje pros ton k. Skandalidh, alla se kamia periptwsh ayto den eixe anaferqei poyqena. Qelw na to ypenqymisw. Ean yphrxe politiko erwthma, qa eprepe na eixe anaferqei. Epomenws, apo th stigmh poy den anaferqhke, shmainei oti den ypeblhqh politiko erwthma. Ean eteqh erwthma gia thn efarmogh ths nomoqesias, yparxei apanthsh poy exei doqei apo tote. Kai kalws eteqh bebaiws, giati toys apasxoloyse oloys, ean qa prepei na efarmostei, kat analogia, h nomoqesia twn boyleytikwn eklogwn h oxi. Ayto lyqhke me thn apanthsh poy edwsa sthn arxh ths proeklogikhs periodoy kai efarmosthke apo tote to periexomeno ths apanthshs moy. Ontws, dhladh, eixan dhmioyrghqei erwthmata, alla ayta aforoysan to an nomimopoioyntai oi syndyasmoi na kanoyn ``spot'' h oxi kai se ti baqmo. Tipota allo.

GARGALAKOS: Xqes, eixame mia emfanish toy k. Karatzaferh kai mia prospaqeia toy na kefalaiopoihsei politika kai kommatika pia o,ti eisepraje ws ypochfios ypernomarxhs kai fainetai na dhmioyrgei pleon ena komma sta dejia ths N.D. kai qa elega kai sta dejia, en genei, toy politikoy systhmatos. Anhsyxeite apo th sygkrothsh aytoy toy forea kai idiaitera apo to gegonos oti ekfrazei akraies qeseis;

PRWTOPAPAS: To erwthma sas exei dyo skelh kai qa apanthsw xwrista: To prwto einai h xqesinh emfanish. Nomizw oti oi dhlwseis toy k. Karatzaferh aforoyn ayton kai thn "politikh toy geitonia". Den exw kanena allo sxolio na kanw. Deyteron, se sxesh twra me to genikotero fainomeno to opoio diapistwqhke, qelw na pw oti exoyn epibebaiwqei plhrws oi qeseis poy eixame ekfrasei prin apo dekapente hmeres. Yparxei ena problhma me emfanish akrodejioy politikoy reymatos kai sthn Ellada. Ayto, bebaiws, den exei parei akoma sobara xarakthristika. Einai safes oti thn eyqynh ferei h politikh ths N.D., h opoia afhnei zwtiko xwro se tetoies antilhceis, oi opoies ejalloy phgasan apo to eswteriko ths. H idia h N.D. me thn politikh ths, ofeilei na apanthsei kai na antimetwpisei ayta ta fainomena. Qelw, epishs, na epishmanw oti endeiktiko apo poy phgase ayto to problhma - poy janalew oti akoma den exei katastei sobaro, kai prepei na antimetwpistei prin katastei sobaro kai ennow politika- einai na deite poy exoyn yparjei ta kalytera pososta sto Lekanopedio, stis ekloges gia thn ypernomarxia, sto syndyasmo toy k. Karatzaferh. Ayto, isws, apanta kai sto erwthma apo poy gennhqhke to problhma. Qa sas diabasw tis pente prwtes perioxes: Papagoy, Salamina, Palaio Falhro, Khfisia kai Glyfada. Einai kaqara astikes perioxes kai einai safes oti orismena fainomena, orismena politika zhthmata poy den exei prosejei h N.D., orismenes antilhceis poy exoyn na kanoyn me ypereqnikistikes qeseis h alla zhthmata, exoyn dhmioyrghsei zwtiko xwro gia na "anqisoyn" tetoia fainomena. Ektimw, oti einai h idia h N.D. h opoia diapistwnei pleon to problhma -kai yparxoyn oi shmerines dhlwseis toy k. Royssopoyloy- kai qa prepei me thn politikh ths na to antimetwpisei. Oson mas afora, emeis bebaiws apo thn arxh to epishmaname kai me thn politikh mas exoyme symbalei shmantika, wste na mhn epitrecoyme na yparjei opoiadhpote apeilh gia th Dhmokratia mas.

MOYRTZHS: Apodidete eyqynh sth N.D. poy afhse zwtiko xwro ston k. Karatzaferh@.

PRWTOPAPAS: Gia na mh ginei parejhghsh, den ennooysa oti h N.D. einai akrodejia. Ayto einai safes.

MOYRTZHS: Nai, apodidete eyqynh sth N.D. poy afhse zwtiko xwro ston k. Karatzaferh kai phre ayto to pososto.

PRWTOPAPAS: Me sygxwreite, to pososto toy k. Karatzaferh den shmainei oti oloi poy ton chfisan aspazontai aytes tis antilhceis. Exei na kanei kai me th diamartyria kai thn antiqesh opadwn ths N.D. stis epiloges ths hgesias ths.

MOYRTZHS: Poia einai h apoch sas, qelete ayto to pososto na afomoiwqei, na paei dhladh stoys kolpoys ths N.D. h na einai san ena ayqyparkto akrodejio komma;

PRWTOPAPAS: Legomai Prwtopapas kai oxi Roysopoylos. Epomenws, prepei na apeyqynete alloy thn erwthsh sas.

MOYRTZHS: Oxi, giati apeyqynete eyqynes, oti afhse zwtiko xwro@

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa oti afhnei zwtiko xwro gia na "anqisoyn" tetoia fainomena. An qymaste, eixa epishmanei edw kai treis - tesseris mhnes oti ena megalo pososto chfoforwn ths N.D. qewroyse oti h xoynta eixe kanei kalo sthn Ellada. Ayto eixe bgei apo mia ereyna, h opoia eixe dhmosieytei se egkrith kyriakatikh efhmerida kai sygkekrimena sto "BHMA". Tote eixe dhmosieytei oti yparxei ena tetoio fainomeno. To eixa epishmanei. Kai eixame pei tote oti h idia h N.D., h opoia einai ena dhmokratiko komma, qa prepei me thn politikh ths na antimetwpisei ayta ta fainomena poy gennwntai stis tajeis ths. Otan, loipon, afhneis zwtiko xwro kai kalliergoyntai tetoies antilhceis, kapoia stigmh emfanizontai kai alliws. Bebaiws, olo to pososto toy k. Karatzaferh den anhkei se ayth thn kathgoria. Pros Qeoy! Yparxoyn para polloi polites poy diamartyrontai gia kapoia atyxestath epilogh ths hgesias toys. Alla einai dyo diaforetikhs fyshs fainomena.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Eipate, epishs, oti h N.D. qa prepei na jekaqarisei th qesh ths. Den apotelei jekaqarisma ths qeshs ths ston a@gyro otan o k. Roysopoylos yphrje safhs oti o k. Karatzaferhs@

PRWTOPAPAS: Den eipa na jekaqarisei th qesh ths. Eipa na jekaqarisei thn politikh ths gia na antimetwpisei tetoia fainomena. Th qesh ths thn exei jekaqarisei. Safws, den to amfisbhtw ayto. Thn oysia ths politikhs ths den exei jekaqarisei.

MOYRTZHS: Sas problhmatizei oti o k. Karatzaferhs epidiwkei na "carecei" kai apo to PASOK;.

PRWTOPAPAS: O kaqenas otan emfanizetai sthn politikh koitazei na kanei th doyleia toy. To qema einai ti kanoyme emeis. Kai h dikh mas politikh prepei na einai safhs, eilikrinhs kai apotelesmatikh kai na mhn afhnei kanena periqwrio, na antimetwpizei to problhma sth bash toy.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Ti apantate, omws, sth N.D. poy leei oti oysiastika to PASOK dhmioyrgei, foyskwnei ena tetoio fainomeno kai antiqetws leei oti oysiastika den yparxei akrodejia sthn Ellada;

PRWTOPAPAS: Opws antilambaneste, sto Dhmo Papagoy, opoy o k. Karatzaferhs phre 23%, den exoyme emeis th dynatothta@

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Yparxoyn kai alles perioxes@

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas eipa gia tis pente prwtes. Sth synexeia einai h Filoqeh, to P. Cyxiko kai alles.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Aytes mporei na einai, omws, chfoi diamartyrias, opws eipate kai eseis

PRWTOPAPAS: Einai kai chfoi diamartyrias. Einai safes, omws, oti einai chfoi poy proerxontai apo astikes perioxes. Ayto shmainei oti mporei na mas dwsei kai polles ejhghseis se polla zhthmata.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Ayto poy lene sth N.D., pantws, einai oti to PASOK foyskwnei ena tetoio fainomeno.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto einai atyxestato kai apodeiknyetai apo thn idia th fysh twn synqhmatwn kai twn politikwn, ta opoia kaqhmerinws blepoyme na kanei o k. Karatzaferhs. Einai safes oti aytos o zwtikos xwros breqhke mesa apo thn idia thn politikh ths N.D..

MOYRTZHS: Kai sto Perama eixe chfoys.

PRWTOPAPAS: Pantws, stoys deka prwtoys Dhmoys den anaferetai.

KWNSTANTOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ekproswpe, exete kapoio sxolio gi` ayto poy eipe xqes o k. Karatzaferhs, na mh sthrixtei o k. Tzannetakos sto b@gyro twn nomarxiakwn eklogwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epanalambanw oti oi xqesines dhlwseis toy k. Karatzaferh aforoyn ton idio kai thn politikh toy geitonia.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Nai, alla lete to idio pragma, omws, gia ton k. Tzannetako.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayto poy eipate einai bebaiws megalo laqos. Einai diaforetikoi oi logoi. Emeis den zhtame na mh sthrixtei o k. Tzannetakos, emeis zhtame na yperchfistei h k. Fwfh Gennhmata. Katalabainete, loipon, oti exei terastia diafora to ena me to allo, thn opoia eseis gnwrizete kai gi` ayto eimai bebaios. Alla, qa mporoysa na sas qymisw oti o k. Karatzaferhs anaferqhke kai se seira Dhmwn.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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