Greek Government Press Briefing, 02-03-01

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 1 Martioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas.

Ayrio to prwi, opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos anaxwrei gia thn Iapwnia. H ellhnikh kybernhsh apodidei idiaiterh shmasia sthn episkech ayth.

H Iapwnia exei ena barynonta politiko rolo sthn eyryterh perioxh ths Asias kai eidikotera sth notioanatolikh Asia. Einai apo tis xwres, oi opoies exoyn ena barynonta logo dieqnws. Opws gnwrizete, h iapwnikh oikonomia einai mia apo tis pio shmantikes toy kosmoy, idiaitera stoys tomeis ths neas texnologias kai toys texnologika prohgmenoys tomeis. H oikonomikh synergasia me thn Iapwnia apokta olo kai pio shmantikh barythta, kai se ayto to plaisio qa pragmatopoihqoyn oi syzhthseis me thn iapwnikh pleyra. Gi` ayto, ejalloy o Prwqypoyrgos qa synodeyetai apo arketoys, shmantikoys, Ellhnes epixeirhmaties. Bebaiws, antikeimeno ths episkechs einai kai h syzhthsh gia dieyrynsh ths dimeroys synergasias kai ston politistiko tomea, kaqws kai h dhmioyrgia twn orwn gia kalyterh synergasia kai enhmerwsh toy iapwnikoy laoy gia tis ejelijeis, enocei twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn toy 2004.

O Prwqypoyrgos qa ginei dektos se akroash apo to aytokratoriko zeygos ths Iapwnias. Qa exei epafes me ton prwqypoyrgo ths xwras -kata th diarkeia twn opoiwn qa ypografei kai mnhmonio synergasias- kaqws kai seira allwn shmantikwn synanthsewn, opws me ton prwhn prwqypoyrgo k. Mori, ton proedro toy Koinoboylioy kai alloys shmantikoys paragontes ths iapwnikhs politikhs kai oikonomikhs zwhs.

Qa dwsei, epishs, mia seira synenteyjewn se iapwnika MME. Qa exoyme thn eykairia, me osoys synadelfoys sas einai parontes sthn apostolh, na antallajoyme apoceis kata th diarkeia toy tajidioy. Epishs, qa yparjei thn Tetarth synanthsh me ton Prwqypoyrgo, opote qa ginei kai mia genikoterh enhmerwsh gia ta apotelesmata ths episkechs, pera apo tis epimeroys dhlwseis.

Qelw na epishmanw thn prwinh topoqethsh-apanthsh poy edwse o Prwqypoyrgos sta zhthmata poy anakinhse o Proedros toy SYN k. Kwnstantopoylos. Sas exei hdh dianemhqei ena keimeno me sxetiko periexomeno. Sto keimeno ayto poy hdh exete sta xeria sas, fainetai ena meros ths doyleias poy exei kanei, mexri stigmhs, h Epitroph toy arqroy 7 toy N. 2331/95. Bebaiws, fainetai kai h doyleia poy exei ginei apo thn Epitroph Antagwnismoy, ena meros aytwn twn parembasewn, gia na apodeixqei oti ta organa ayta doyleyoyn kai jeroyn na drasthriopoioyntai se shmantiko baqmo gia thn antimetwpish twn fainomenwn "jeplymatos xrhmatos", alla kai gia thn prostasia toy kalws nooymenoy antagwnismoy apo monopwliakes kai oligopwliakes katastaseis. Ayta ta keimena poy exete, diapistwnete oti pragmati h topoqethsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia to ergo poy kanoyn aytes oi Epitropes, apodeiknyetai kai apo ta pragmata.

Yparxoyn dhlwseis toy ypoyrgoy Eqnikhs Amynas G. Papantwnioy gia th shmerinh synedriash toy KYSEA kai tis apofaseis toy. Opws eipe o k. Papantwnioy, to KYSEA apofasise thn agora systhmatwn aytoprostasias gia ta F-16, metagwgikwn aeroplanwn kai armatwn maxhs, mesa apo thn apotimhsh, me aysthro tropo, twn antagwnistikwn diadikasiwn, lambanontas ypoch kai tis oikonomikes prosfores, to xrono paradoshs toy ejoplismoy kai ta texnika xarakthristika poy xreiazontai oi ellhnikes Enoples Dynameis.

Epishs, to KYSEA apofasise thn apostrateia toy Arxhgoy Limenikoy Swmatos k. Andrea Syrigoy, o opoios symplhrwnei dietia sth qesh toy, dedomenhs kai ths enarjhs twn ethsiwn krisewn, stis 10/3/2002.

O ypoyrgos Emporikhs Naytilias G. Anwmeriths kai to KYSEA, eyxaristhsan ton aperxomeno Arxhgo, qewrwntas ton ws eydokimws termatisanta th qhteia toy kai toy aponemoyn ton titlo toy Epitimoy Arxhgoy toy Limenikoy Swmatos.

To KYSEA epeleje omofwna, ws neo Arxhgo, ton Yponayarxo Xrhsto Delhmixalh, prwto sthn epethrida, metajy twn exontwn ta prosonta gia proagwgh. O nyn Arxhgos yphretei eydokima to Limeniko Swma gia 32 xronia kai einai ptyxioyxos nomikwn episthmwn. To KYSEA ton prohgage sto baqmo toy Antinayarxoy.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Sto KYSEA o ypoyrgos Amynas edwse kapoies ejhghseis gi` ayth thn parembash toy stis proagwges sto Naytiko.

PRWTOPAPAS: Oydemia parembash toy k. Papantwnioy yphrje sto qema twn proagwgwn. Ejalloy, yparxei sxetikh dhlwsh toy stoys synadelfoys sas, meta th lhjh ths synedriashs toy KYSEA.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai tote, giati ypebale thn paraithsh toy o Arxhgos toy Naytikoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei paraithsh toy Arxhgoy toy Naytikoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Oi proagwges stis Enoples Dynameis, ginontai me xarti toy ypoyrgoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ginontai aysthra me bash ton kanonismo poy problepei kaqe epipedo twn Enoplwn Dynamewn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati parenebh, tote, o k. Papantwnioy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yphrje parembash toy k. Papantwnioy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ayta poy dhmosieyontai shmera, ta diaceydete ola;

PRWTOPAPAS: Bebaiws. Yparxei sas eipa kai h dhlwsh toy k. Papantwnioy pros toys synadelfoys sas, meta th lhjh ths synedriashs toy KYSEA.

IWANNOY: Yphrje to prwi thlefwnikh epikoinwnia toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton k. Papantwnioy, sthn opoia o k. Shmiths ejefrase, kata kapoio tropo, thn enoxlhsh toy gia osa symbainoyn sto qema toy Naytikoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Oxi, den yphrje tetoio zhthma.

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: Eipate prohgoymenws, oti den yphrxe paraithsh toy Arxhgoy toy Naytikoy.

PRWTOPAPAS: Eipa, "den yparxei".

I. XASAPOPOYLOS: O Arxhgos toy Naytikoy, mhpws apeilhse me paraithsh;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ej oswn gnwrizw, oxi. Den yparxei tetoio qema.

MPOTWNHS: Shmera sth Boylh kata th diarkeia ths syzhthshs, sthn eperwthsh toy k. Ebert, akoysthkan baries koybentes kai ekfraseis, opws gia paradeigma oti "o Prwqypoyrgos den exei ton andrismo na zhthsei sygnwmh gia ta osa eipe sthn Edessa peri politikhs ektrophs". Yparxei kapoio sxolio apo thn kybernhsh gi` ayth thn proswpikh epiqesh poy dexqhke o Prwqypoyrgos;

PRWTOPAPAS: Olos o ellhnikos laos eixe thn eykairia -kai pisteyw oti ayto qa ginei kai sth synexeia ths hmeras- na parakoloyqhsei ton tropo me ton opoio antilambanetai ton politiko dialogo h N.D. Gia mia akomh fora, o k. Ebert "zhlwse th doja" toy arxhgoy toy kai synexise thn taktikh twn ybrewn, twn proswpikwn antiparaqesewn, ths entashs kai toy dixasmoy. H N.D. antilambanetai thn politikh antiparaqesh ws ejybrish ths allhs pleyras. Nomizw, loipon, oti den mporoyme pia na parakoloyqhsoyme aytoy toy eidoys th symperifora. Toys epistrefoyme toys xarakthrismoys. Emeis koitoyme to ergo mas, antilambanomaste thn politikh antiparaqesh ws antallagh apocewn, idewn kai epixeirhmatwn. To hqos kai to yfos, to opoio, kai shmera, edeije h N.D., xarakthrizei thn politikh ths kai einai apotelesma ths apoysias politikhs, ths apoysias programmatikoy logoy. H N.D. prospaqei na metatrecei th dikh ths politikh ysterhsh se ysterhsh ths xwras, kati poy ajizei na to shmeiwsoyme idiaitera. Einai safes gia mas oti h politikh den mporei na ginetai me ybreis, me proswpikes antiparaqeseis, me th strathgikh ths entashs kai toy dixasmoy. Den mporoyme, pleon, na toys akoloyqhsoyme. Emeis antilambanomaste diaforetika thn politikh antiparaqesh, mesa stoys kanones ths Dhmokratias. Alla, ekei fainetai oti ayth h taktikh ekfrazei thn kenothta politikhs ths N.D. Idoy, loipon, h taktikh ths. Thn paradidoyme sthn krish toy ellhnikoy laoy.

IWANNOY: Se dhlwseis poy ekanan arketa stelexh ths N.D., amesws meta thn kontra sth Boylh kai sygkekrimena o epitimos Proedros ths N.D. eipe oti exei xasei ton elegxo toy eaytoy toy o k. Shmiths, oti alla qelei kai alla leei. Malista kai kapoia alla stelexh ths N.D., opws o k.Kefalogiannhs kai o k. Paylopoylos, milhsan eyqews gia ekloges. Epishs, qa hqela kai ena sxolio gia ton k. Giakoymato gia thn "egkefalikh ektroph" poy katalogise ston Prwqypoyrgo.

PRWTOPAPAS: Kai ayth h taktikh toy k. Giakoymatoy kai ayth h taktikh toy k. Ebert kai ayth h taktikh toy k. Karamanlh, me synexeis ybreis kai proswpikes epiqeseis, deixnei thn kenothta ths politikhs toys kai bebaiws, apodeiknyei to eidos ths politikhs antiparaqeshs poy dystyxws oneireyetai h N.D. Me tetoio hqos kai tetoio yfos h politikh den mporei na paei mprosta. Paradidoyme toys ybristes sthn krish toy ellhnikoy laoy.

IWANNOY: Gia tis ekloges den moy apanthsate. Lene oti h monh lysh einai oi ekloges.

PRWTOPAPAS: Se ayth thn periptwsh, qa elega, oti h N.D. exei parei thn apanthsh, kat` epanalhch, apo ton ellhniko lao, mesa apo ekloges. Den krinoyme oti yparxei kaneis logos prowrwn eklogwn. Exoyme ergo mprosta mas. Qa ejantlhsoyme thn tetraetia poy me thn chfo toy mas edwse o ellhnikos laos kai qa efarmosoyme to programma mas. Ayto kanoyme. Apo ekei kai pera, einai safes oti h N.D. gia to mono poy endiaferetai einai na katalabei, me kaqe meso, thn ejoysia, epibebaiwnontas to rhto oti "o peinasmenos karbelia oneireyetai". Ayto, omws, den to apofasizei oyte h N.D., oyte oi politikoi ths poy diagkwnizontai se ybreis pros to proswpo toy Kwsta Shmith kai to PASOK. Ekeinos poy apofasizei einai o ellhnikos laos, o opoios exei dwsei tis apanthseis toy. Kai pisteyoyme pws, otan erqei to plhrwma toy xronoy kai ajiologwntas thn politikh mas, gia mia akomh fora, qa dwsei thn arnhtikh apanthsh toy pros th N.D..

KANELLOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, sas akoysame prohgoymenws na lete oti "h N.D. prospaqei me kaqe meso na katalabei thn ejoysia". Diapistwnei h kybernhsh oti h N.D. kineitai kai peran twn oriwn toy dhmokratikoy politeymatos mas; Ti ennoeite me kaqe meson;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den ennow kati tetoio. Oydepote perase apo to myalo moy kati tetoio. Ayto poy ennow einai oti me ybreis, proswpikes antiparaqeseis, klima entashs kai dixasmoy, epiplastes kathgories kai prospaqeia dhmioyrgias entypwsewn, me kenothta politikhs kai oxi ayto poy me rwtate.

KANELLOPOYLOS: H katalhch ths ejoysias, profanws, den epitygxanetai me tetoia mesa.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den nomizw oti h N.D. oneireyetai efodo se xeimerina anaktora, giati ayto proypoqetei kai alloy typoy dynameis kai alloy typoy antilhceis. Gia na mhn yparjei parejhghsh, ennooysa me taktikes poy einai ejw apo thn kalws nooymenh politikh antiparaqesh.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe milhsei gia politikh ektroph. Shmera eipe oti den kindyneyei h dhmokratia mas. Ti symbainei; Ayto poy eipe den isxyei h ayto poy leei shmera den isxyei;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos me ayto poy eipe ennooyse toys kindynoys apo thn yponomeysh toy politikoy systhmatos mas kai thn apajiwsh ths politikhs kai twn politikwn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Yphrje h den yphrje politikh ektroph;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apanthsa.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai teleiwse shmera me th dhlwsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Kata ton k. Karamanlh, qelw na sas ypenqymisw, oti o epikefalhs twn prospaqeiwn politikhs ektrophs einai o Prwqypoyrgos. Bebaiws ayta einai asteia pragmata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Karamanlhs, xqes, zhthse na anoijoyn oloi oi logariasmoi, osoi briskontai sth Dikaiosynh. Qa anoijoyn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ektimw oti o k. Karamanlhs exei zhlwsei to rolo toy ypobolea, o opoios -opws qymaste- yphrxe palia, se orismena apo ta qeatra mas. H Dikaiosynh, opws gnwrizete, den exei anagkh oyte apo ypoboleis, oyte apo ypodeijeis, oyte apo prostates. Kala qa kanei, loipon, o k. Karamanlhs na egkataleicei ayth thn taktikh poy einai taktikh prosporishs kommatikwn ofelwn. Einai safes oti, ean h Dikaiosynh zhthsei th symbolh ths politeias gia opoiadhpote energeia krinei ayth, symfwna me tis keimenes diatajeis, qewroyme aytonohto oti qa thn exei, opws thn exei pantote.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos eipe shmera oti den mporei na anoijoyn oi logariasmoi poy briskontai sto ejwteriko, p.x. sthn Elbetia, to Loyjemboyrgo. An, omws, qelei h kybernhsh mporei na toys anoijei.

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos eipe oti emeis qa kanoyme o,ti mas zhthsei h Dikaiosynh. Einai h perifhmh dikastikh syndromh. An h Dikaiosynh ths xwras mas zhthsei th symbolh ths kybernhshs gia na anoijei ena logariasmo se mia jenh xwra, h kybernhsh -toylaxiston h kybernhsh toy PASOK- antapokrinetai pantote se ayto poy zhta h Dikaiosynh. Einai monimh taktikh, xwris na krinoyme thn prwth, th deyterh h thn trith periptwsh. Ayto isxyei pantote. Ean, loipon, h Dikaiosynh zhthsei kati tetoio, qwroyme aytonohto kai dedomeno oti qa yparxei h amesh antapokrish ths politeias. Oydepote yphrje diaforetikh taktikh. Ekeino, bebaiws, poy tonise o Prwqypoyrgos -kai qelw na to epanalabw- einai oti yparxoyn orismenes xwres, opoy kai an akomh h kybernhsh zhthsei th symbolh toys, se sxesh me trapezikoys logariasmoys, se para polles periptwseis den antapokrinontai. Yparxoyn polles xwres poy protimoyn na akoloyqoyn mia teleiws diaforetikh taktikh se qemata trapezikwn logariasmwn kai se forologika qemata. Einai oi legomenoi "paradeisoi", poy kaqe allo para "paradeisoi" einai. Ayto poy xreiazetai einai na doyme me poio tropo emeis mesa apo thn E.E. enisxyoyme th nomoqesia ths gia tetoies symperifores kai tetoies etaireies -kai to exoyme hdh kanei- prokeimenoy na epikrathsoyn plhreis oroi diafaneias. Gnwrizete th maxh poy exei dwsei h ellhnikh kybernhsh gia tis parakties, tis legomenes off shore, etaireies gia thn ypoxrewsh paroxhs stoixeiwn sthn E.E.. Dioti akomh den einai plhrhs h eyrwpaikh nomoqesia kai ektimoyme oti mporei na ginei apolyta plhrhs kai na symbalei sto ergo ths diafaneias poy epiqymoyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Gia dyo logariasmoys rwtaw, ths Mayo kai ths Stazi. Qa toys anoijete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw hdh apanthsei plhrestata. Den kanoyme proswpikes, oyte epilektikes politikes. Mporei kapoioi na oneireyontai epilektikes politikes, alla oxi h kybernhsh mas, h opoia exei orioqethsei tis sxeseis ths me th Dikaiosynh. Sebetai th Dikaiosynh, thn afhnei na kanei th doyleia ths kai den oneireyetai to rolo toy ypobolea h toy prostath, poy oneireyetai o k. Karamanlhs. Proxwroyme me bash th nomimothta kai einai aytonohth h antapokrish mas stis keimenes diatajeis.

MPEKATWROY: Sxetika me to KYSEA, mhpws qa mporoysate na mas dwsete tis hmeromhnies paradoshs gia to meso metagwgiko kai to tanks;

PRWTOPAPAS: Yparxoyn oi xronikes proqesmies poy apoteloyn antikeimeno kai ths telikhs diapragmateyshs prin apo thn ypografh ths symbashs. Exei prosdioristei ena plaisio, alla -opws gnwrizete- ayta kaqorizontai me thn telikh ypografh ths symbashs. Lhfqhke ypoch ws krithrio kai o xronos paradoshs.

KOLLIOPOYLOY: Hqela to sxolio ths kybernhshs gia th xqesinh kataggelia toy Pagkosmioy Organismoy Basanisthriwn gia ejwsh tsigganwn apo diafores synoikies ths Aqhnas, logw twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn toy 2004;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den yparxei ejwsh kanenos tsigganoy apo thn katoikia toy, oyte genikotera kanenos Ellhna. An yparxoyn apallotriwseis h kati allo ayta exoyn na kanoyn me thn efarmogh ths nomimothtas. Dhladh, an diataxqei apallotriwsh gia na kataskeyastei ena stadio einai kati poy afora oloys toys Ellhnes polites. Kamia sxesh me diaxwrismoys tetoioy typoy. Pros Qeoy!

KOLLIOPOYLOY: O Pagkosmios Organismos Basanisthriwn anaferetai, kyriws, sta gegonota poy eixan ginei ston Aspropyrgo to 2000.

PRWTOPAPAS: Opoios isxyrizetai oti exoyme basanisthria sthn Ellada, einai ektos pragmatikothtas.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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