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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 11 Febroyarioy 2002

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO XRHSTO PRWTOPAPA

Geia sas kai kalh ebdomada.

Na sas enhmerwsw gia to programma toy Prwqypoyrgoy ayths ths ebdomadas.

Shmera, stis 12 to meshmeri, o Prwqypoyrgos eixe synergasia me ton epikefalhs ths Eyrwkoinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy PASOK Giwrgo Kathforh. Stis 13.15, o Prwqypoyrgos qa synanthqei me ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas G. Papantwnioy, me antikeimeno thn proetoimasia toy KYSEA gia qemata ejoplismwn.

Ayrio, stis 10 to prwi, o Prwqypoyrgos qa exei synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Anaptyjhs A. Tsoxatzopoylo. Stis 12 to meshmeri, qa synanthqei me to Grammatea ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs toy PASOK K. Laliwth. Stis 13.30, qa exei synergasia me ton yfypoyrgo Politismoy N. Aleyra, gia thn parakoloyqhsh ths proodoy twn ergwn poy sxetizontai me thn olympiakh proetoimasia.

Thn Tetarth, stis 10.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa episkefqei, sto plaisio twn taktikwn synanthsewn toys, ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias Kwnstantino Stefanopoylo. Stis 12 to meshmeri, qa exei synergasia me ton ypoyrgo Paideias P. Eyqymioy kai stis 13.30 qa dexqei ton Proedro toy DHKO Taso Papadopoylo.

Thn Pempth, qa synelqei to Ypoyrgiko Symboylio, me qema thn politikh gia ta MME kai th genikoterh poreia toy kybernhtikoy ergoy. Stis 14.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa dexqei ton aperxomeno arxhgo toy GEA k. Lytzerako.

Thn Paraskeyh, stis 10.30, o Prwqypoyrgos qa apanthsei, sth Boylh, se erwthseis, ean xreiastei. Stis 11.30, qa exei synanthsh me ton Proedro ths Kypriakhs Boylhs k. Xristofia kai stis 12 to meshmeri, einai prosdiorismenh h synanthsh toy me toys genikoys grammateis twn Perifereiwn, se kentriko jenodoxeio ths Aqhnas.

Parakalw, tis erwthseis sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Pagkalos amfisbhtei ean h xwra kybernatai. Eipe oti den kybernatai h xwra. Ti sxolio exete na kanete ep` aytoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: H xwra kybernatai kai kybernatai kala. To karabi pleei staqera sthn prosdiorismenh poreia toy kai o kapetanios krataei poly kala to timoni.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Meta apo ayth th synenteyjh toy k. Pagkaloy, h opoia strefetai eyqews enantion toy Prwqypoyrgoy kai Proedroy toy PASOK, yparxei problhma diagrafhs toy k. Pagkaloy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw tonisei apo xqes oti den yparxei tetoio qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Pagkalos, ws melos ths Koinoboyleytikhs Omadas toy PASOK, apolambanei ths empistosynhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw, hdh, topoqethqei sthn prohgoymenh erwthsh sas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Pagkalos eipe kai kati poy afora esas, poy eiste kai ypoyrgos Typoy, oti epta xronia einai h kybernhsh Shmith kai akomh syzhtame gia tis adeies twn thleoptikwn staqmwn. Ti exete na apanthsete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Epi ths oysias exw, hdh, topoqethqei. Gnwrizete oti meta to 1995, me to N. 2328, to legomeno "Nomo Benizeloy", kinhqhke h diadikasia gia th xorhghsh twn adeiwn. H diadikasia ayth htan idiaitera epiponh. Gnwrizete oti ypoblhqhkan 160 aithseis gia adeies eqnikhs kai perifereiakhs embeleias. Ean den yphrxan prosqetes nomikes parembaseis gia th dieykolynsh ths ejetashs twn fakelwn, tote qa eixan kopei peripoy oloi oi staqmoi, dioti htan h prwth fora poy efarmozotan ayth h diadikasia. Yphrjan sobarotates dyskolies kai xreiasthke, kat` epanalhch, h tote politikh hgesia toy ypoyrgeioy Typoy na labei prosqeta metra, prokeimenoy na dieykolynei toys endiaferomenoys. Parola ayta kai me tis dyskolies ths prwths foras poy htan poly megales, egine ena pragmatika shmantiko ergo kai exoyme fqasei ayth th stigmh sthn telikh eyqeia. Gnwrizete oti, hdh, exw ypogracei tis 27 adeies radiofwnikwn staqmwn ths Qessalonikhs. To ESR exei oloklhrwsei thn epejergasia twn adeiwn twn radiofwnikwn staqmwn ths Aqhnas kai anamenw ta praktika gia na ekdoqei h ypoyrgikh apofash. Eimaste sthn telikh eyqeia. Shmera, lhgei h proqesmia, ean den kanw laqos, gia thn proskomish twn teleytaiwn dikaiologhtikwn gia toys thleoptikoys staqmoys eqnikhs embeleias. Epomenws, apodeiknyetai oti mesa apo oles tis dyskolies kai me to ploysio ergo poy egine sto ypoyrgeio apo toys prokatoxoys moy, exoyme fqasei se mia fash poy mporoyme na leme oti qa mpei tajh sto radiothleoptiko topio. Qelw, omws, na qymisw oti ola ayta den apoteloyn apanthsh ston k. Pagkalo, bebaiws, alla epeidh to eida polles fores na anaferetai, gi` ayto ekrina skopimo na to sxoliasw.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Egw rwthsa, me aformh ayto...

PRWTOPAPAS: Egw, omws, apanthsa me aformh arketes parembaseis poy eida apo polla politika kai dhmosiografika stelexh se seira thleoptikwn ekpompwn. Pisteyw oti htan kalh eykairia gia na dwsoyme ejhghseis. Den einai kako na antallassontai apoceis kai na dinontai ejhghseis. Qewroyme oti, pragmati, egine ena spoydaio ergo, se antiqesh me th N.D., h opoia -qelw na sas qymisw- proxwrhse xwris kanena plaisio kai xwris kamia diadikasia, pragma poy dhmioyrghse thn aisqhsh kai ths atajias kai ths anarxias sto xwro.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Me aformh thn prohgoymenh apanthsh poy dwsate, ti prepei na kanei ena stelexos toy PASOK gia na mhn apolambanei ths empistosynhs toy Prwqypoyrgoy; Ti xeirotero mporei na pei apo ayta poy eipe o k. Pagkalos;

PRWTOPAPAS: H erwthsh sas exei, hdh, apanthqei apo tis prohgoymenes apanthseis poy edwsa.

TAKHS: Se ligh wra, anakoinwnetai kai epishmws h ypochfiothta toy k. Papoytsh gia to Dhmo ths Aqhnas. Qa mas peite ta bhmata poy eginan, mexri na fqasoyme se ayth thn anakoinwsh, tis teleytaies wres, thn opoia synennohsh egine me ton Prwqypoyrgo, ti eipe o Prwqypoyrgos kai en pash periptwsei, ti shmainei gia sas ayth h ypochfiothta kai poso qewreite oti mporei na einai nikhfora gia to PASOK stis epomenes ekloges;

PRWTOPAPAS: Qelw na sas qymisw oti milate me ton Kybernhtiko Ekproswpo. Oi opoiasdhpote morfhs tetoies anakoinwseis qa ginoyn apo toys armodioys toy Kommatos kai eidikotera apo to Grammatea K. Laliwth. Epomenws, apo to PASOK qa ginoyn oi sxetikes anakoinwseis. Bebaiws, aytes oi anakoinwseis qa desmeyoyn oloys mas sth sthrijh mias ypochfiothtas poy qa diekdikhsei to Dhmo ths Aqhnas.

TAKHS: Eseis den exete kanena sxolio gia ton k. Papoytsh; Pws blepete thn ypochfiothta;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ekeino poy qelw na tonisw einai to idiaitera qetiko gegonos oti o k. Papoytshs -ena stelexos me ploysia politikh empeiria, alla kai empeiria sthn Eyrwph kai se kybernhtikes qeseis- eqese thn ypochfiothta toy sth diaqesh toy kommatos. Ws energeia, einai idiaitera qetikh. Apo ekei kai pera, tis apofaseis qa tis labei to komma. Kai qa tis sthrijoyme oloi mazi.

MIXAHL: H erwthsh moy exei dyo skelh: Prwton, o k. Shmiths me ton k. Kathforh syzhthsan, endexomenws, ton tropo ajiopoihshs toy k. Pagkaloy, o opoios ejefrase thn epiqymia toy na bohqhsei sth diadikasia ths Syntaktikhs Syneleyshs ths neas thlekybernhtikhs; Kai deyteron, syzhthsan ta "parapona" pollwn eyrwboyleytwn toy PASOK gia th stash toy k. Kathforh, ta opoia exoyn ftasei kai sto Grafeio toy Prwqypoyrgoy, oson afora kai th symmetoxh toy se Epitropes kai th stash toy se sygkekrimenes diadikasies toy Eyrwpaikoy Koinoboylioy kai genika ton tropo poy leitoyrgei ws epikefalhs ths omadas twn eyrwboyleytwn toy PASOK;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos syzhthse me ton k. Kathforh genikotera qemata poy sxetizontai me thn poreia ths eyrwkoinoboyleytikhs omadas toy PASOK, alla kai twn drasthriothtwn ths epi ths oysias sto Eyrwkoinoboylio.

MIXAHL: Xqes, diabasame se diafores efhmerides oti piqano na yparjei kai deytero kyma "epiqesewn" kata toy Proedroy ths Dhmokratias, to epomeno diasthma. Exei kati ypoch ths h kybernhsh, qelete na kanete ena sxolio;

PRWTOPAPAS: Diabasame ki emeis ta sxetika dhmosieymata. Den exw para na epanalabw prohgoymenes dhlwseis moy. H Dhmokratia exei tis amynes ths kai exei, opws apodeixqhke, me thn omoqymh sthrijh toy politikoy kosmoy, thn ikanothta na perifroyrhsei to kyros twn qesmwn. Apo ekei kai pera, anamfibola oi opoiesdhpote apokalyceis eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas symballoyn sthn apokalych kai katadikh aytwn twn sxediwn.

XRISTAKOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qa hqela na rwthsw ean oi fakeloi me ta stoixeia gia toys logariasmoys poy mporei na sxetizontai me ton Slompontan Milosebits exoyn diabibastei sto Dieqnes Dikasthrio ths Xaghs h oxi, dioti fainetai oti yparxei mia diafora me ayto poy leei to ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs oti qa edine aytoys toys fakeloys sto ypoyrgeio Ejwterikwn, enw to YPEJ leei oti den gnwrizei tipota gi ayto.

PRWTOPAPAS: Anafereste sth shmerinh enhmerwsh toy k. Mpeglith. Qelw na tonisw oti thn Paraskeyh me enhmerwse o ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs Filippos Petsalnikos oti oloklhrwqhke h diadikasia apo to ypoyrgeio Dikaiosynhs kai diabibazontai sto YPEJ, gia na apostaloyn sto Dikasthrio. Prokeitai, dhladh, peri aplhs metaforas stoixeiwn kai oxi gia prajeis oysias toy YPEJ. Me ayth thn ennoia einai mia diadikasia poy exei na kanei kaqara me oroys typikhs ekteleshs. Qa apostaloyn me to diplwmatiko sako sto armodio Dikasthrio.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Qa hqela na moy peite ean to karabi stis sxeseis Elladas-Kyproy, epeidh prohgoymenws anaferqhkate se karabi, pleei omala. Dioti ofeilw na sas pw oti xqes yphrje anastatwsh sthn Kypriakh Dhmokratia kai ton politiko kosmo, anaforika me thn "perifhmh" epistolh Tzem, h opoia estalh stoys "15" kai h opoia, opws lene, apekrybh h den enhmerwqhke sxetika h kypriakh kybernhsh apo ton k. Papandreoy. Kai bebaiws, ayth h epistolh miloyse gia yparjh dyo kratwn kai gia anagnwrish toy ceydokratoys. Qa hqela, epishs na sxoliasete th dhlwsh bomba toy Ntenktas, meta to ' 74 den exei janadhlwqei tetoio pragma, oti sthn Kypro den yparxoyn prosfyges pleon. Kai akomh na sxoliasete to gegonos oti exoyn sylhqei 133 ekklhsies sta katexomena.

PRWTOPAPAS: H enhmerwsh gia thn epistolh toy k. Tzem egine sto atypo Symboylio twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn ths ispanikhs Proedrias. Amesws meta enhmerwqhkan sxetika oi dhmosiografoi, gi` ayto dhmioyrghqhke ayth h lanqasmenh entypwsh oti dhqen kati apekrybh. Den einai etsi.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Milw gia enhmerwsh ths Kypriakhs Dhmokratias, epishmws.

PRWTOPAPAS: H Kypriakh Dhmokratia enhmerwqhke. Sto Symboylio Ypoyrgwn egine, epishs, enhmerwsh gyrw apo thn epistolh Tzem. Amesws meta egine mia enhmerwsh stoys dhmosiografoys apo thn ispanikh Proedria kai apo ekei dhmioyrghqhke ayth "h parejhghsh". Den yparxei, omws, epi ths oysias tetoio qema.

Oson afora, thn oysia toy problhmatos qa elega oti o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn ths Toyrkias epanalambanei tis gnwstes toyrkikes qeseis. Qeloyme na tonisoyme oti h symbolh ths Toyrkias sthn epilysh toy Kypriakoy syndeetai arrhkta me thn eyrwpaikh poreia ths. Gi ayto kai prepei na einai pragmatikh ayth h symbolh kai na mh menei sthn epanalhch twn gnwstwn adiallaktwn qesewn. Apo thn allh h prospaqeia, gia epilysh toy Kypriakoy ginetai sto plaisio toy OHE. Yparxei ena plaisio ths dieqnoys koinothtas kai se ayto anaptyssontai kai oi prwtoboylies toy Proedroy Glaykoy Klhridh. H toyrkikh pleyra prepei na katalabei oti prepei na symbalei pragmatika kai oxi na epimeinei sth gnwsth adiallajia poy den petyxainei tipota allo, para na thn odhghsei se apomonwsh apo th dieqnh koinothta.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kat` arxas, qelw na sas pw oti sthn Kypro -kai eginan kai sxetikes dhlwseis- lene oti h kypriakh kybernhsh den enhmerwqhke apo ton k. Papandreoy. Eseis lete oti enhmerwqhke. To jepernaw. Qelw, omws, na sas pw san synexeia oti o k. Ferxoigken, basei ayths ths epistolhs, qelei dialogo gia to Kypriako. Ayto dhmosieyqhke. Epomenws, ayth thn epistolh mhn thn pername teleiws epidermika. Exei th shmasia ths kai qa prepei na thn ejetasoyme para poly sobara kai qa prepei na enhmerwnetai h kypriakh kybernhsh gia na jerei poy badizoyme.

PRWTOPAPAS: Sas apanthsa oti otan egine h sxetikh enhmerwsh sto atypo Symboylio gia thn epistolh ayth, h ellhnikh pleyra eipe ayta poy eprepe na pei kai sth synexeia qa enhmerwnotan kai h kypriakh pleyra.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: A, qa enhmerwnotan. Twra to eipate kala.

PRWTOPAPAS: Hdh exei ginei. Alla sas eipa oti milame gia arketes meres prin. Gnwrizete, omws, oti dhmioyrghqhke ena qema apo thn enhmerwsh poy ekanan kykloi ths ispanikhs Proedrias pros toys dhmosiografoys. Gi ayto kai dhmioyrghqhke ayto to prwqystero sxhma, to opoio ofeilotan kaqara se mia enhmerwsh poy egine atypa apo kykloys ths ispanikhs Proedrias. Den nomizw oti ayto apotelei stoixeio parejhghshs. Ta qemata exoyn hdh epilyqei.

Apo ekei kai pera, epi ths oysias qa mporoysa apolyta na symfwnhsw mazi sas oti ola ayta prepei na antimetwpizontai ws stoixeia twn kinhsewn mas se ena pragmati idiaitera sobaro qema. Bebaiws, etsi antimetwpizontai.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Gia ta qemata twn prosfygwn kai ths sylhshs twn ekklhsiwn den moy apanthsate.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ayth einai mia taktikh poy akoloyqeitai apo thn toyrkokypriakh pleyra. Dhladh, orismenes fores na ojynetai h katastash, na ginontai orismenes dhlwseis kai na dhmioyrgeitai mia entash, h opoia kata th gnwmh moy exei na kanei me prospaqeia dhmioyrgias kalyterwn orwn gia th diapragmateysh pros ofelos toys. Kata th gnwmh moy ayta den prokeitai na wfelhsoyn. Ekeino poy prokeitai na wfelhsei thn toyrkikh pleyra -ean qelei toylaxiston thn eyrwpaikh ths poreia- einai oi epi ths oysias apanthseis ths, sto plaisio twn apofasewn toy OHE gia thn epilysh toy Kypriakoy.

BITALHS: Qa hqela na sas rwthsw ean pragmati h epistolh toy k. Tzem eixe "ftasei" sthn Aqhna thn Tetarth, dyo hmeres prin apo to atypo Symboylio twn Ypoyrgwn Ejwterikwn kai ean apo thn Tetarth h Pempth enhmerwqhke kai o Prwqypoyrgos gi ayth thn epistolh. Kai ean aytes oi qeseis poy perigrafei o k. Tzem, tis opoies kat` epanalhch h ellhnikh kybernhsh, alla kai h dieqnhs koinothta exoyn xarakthrisei ws adiallaktes kai aparadektes, peri anagnwrishs toy ceydokratoys, ephreazoyn ayth th stigmh thn poreia toy diereynhtikoy dialogoy poy exoyme jekinhsei me thn Toyrkia;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qa ephreasei thn poreia, toylaxiston apo th dikh mas pleyra, twn diereynhsewn gia th dynatothta dialogoy. Apo th dikh mas pleyra yparxei eilikrinhs proqesh, qelw na to tonisw ayto, na diereynhsoyme tis dynatothtes epilyshs kai twn teleytaiwn diaforwn poy yparxoyn kai anagnwrizoyme sto Aigaio. Kai milw gia to qema ths yfalokrhpidas, opws epishs kai gia ta alla genikotera problhmata poy prepei na antimetwpistoyn, wste na dhmioyrghqei ena klima kalhs geitonias kai synergasias me thn Toyrkia. Apo ellhnikhs pleyras yparxoyn oi kalyteres proqeseis. Gia tis pragmatikes, omws diaqeseis ths Toyrkias qa mporesoyme na topoqethqoyme meta tis diereynhtikes epafes. Gnwrizete kala oti polles fores legontai kai ginontai pragmata, eite gia na strecoyn to endiaferon pros ta ekei poy qelei h toyrkikh pleyra, eite gia na dhmioyrghqoyn antiperispasmoi, eite giati kata th gnwmh toys qeloyn na erqoyn se kalyteres diapragmateytikes qeseis. Emeis menoyme sthn oysia. H taktikh mas einai safhs. Einai prosanatolismenh se qemata oysias. Exoyme th sthrijh ths dieqnoys koinothtas. Se ayth thn politikh proxwroyme staqera.

BITALHS: Den apanthsate ston an h epistolh eixe erqei apo thn Tetarth kai ean eixe enhmerwqei o Prwqypoyrgos;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos pantote enhmerwnetai gia ola ta sobara qemata. Ayto einai aytonohto.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Mhpws h episkech toy k. Xristofia, thn Paraskeyh, exei sxesh me osa erwthsa prohgoymenws;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos, anamfibola, endiaferetai gia tis ejelijeis poy yphrjan kata ton prwto gyro twn synomiliwn. Oi synanthseis ginontai me toys epikefalhs twn kypriakwn kommatwn. Den einai monon o k. Xristofias, einai kai o k. Papadopoylos kai gnwrizete oti argotera yparxei kai h episkech toy Proedroy Klhridh. Epomenws einai enas kyklos, poy exei na kanei me epafes toy Prwqypoyrgoy gia allhloenhmerwsh kai syntonismo, enocei twn ejelijewn sto Kypriako. Einai poly swsto poy ginontai oi epafes kai me ola ta kommata, pera apo thn kybernhsh.

ANTYPAS: Qa hqela na rwthsw ean exei oristei h hmeromhnia gia to KYSEA, poy proanaggeilate.

PRWTOPAPAS: Den exei oristei akomh. Otan oristei qa sas enhmerwsw.

ANTYPAS: Epeidh, h erwthsh toy k. Bitalh exei ki ena stoixeio, to opoio den jerw an to prosejate, ean "hrqe" ayth h epistolh toy k. Tzem thn prohgoymenh Tetarth@

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw topoqethqei epi ths oysias toy qematos. An qelete na maqete thn akribh hmeromhnia qa thn plhroforhqw kai qa sas enhmerwsw.

PANAGIWTIDOY: Qa hqela na epanelqw sto qema twn MME, dieykrinistika. Eipate oti eixan katateqei 160 aithseis kai exete ypogracei, mexri twra, gia toys radiofwnikoys staqmoys 27.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ennooysa sthn arxh, to 1996.

PANAGIWTIDOY: Hqela na rwthsw poios einai o ariqmos twn adeiwn poy exoyn egkriqei gia toys radiofwnikoys kai thleoptikoys staqmoys ths Aqhnas kai toys perifereiakoys.

PRWTOPAPAS: Exoyme ypogracei 27 adeies radiofwnikwn staqmwn sth Qessalonikh. Opws gnwrizete kai opws sas eixe anakoinwsei o k. Reppas exoyn ypografei 20 adeies gia radiofwnikoys staqmoys sthn Aqhna. Twra, qa ypografoyn alles 15. To ESR exei oloklhrwsei tis sxetikes diadikasies. Qa moy apostaloyn ta epishma praktika gia na syntaxqei h ypoyrgikh apofash, tis epomenes hmeres. Oi adeies gia toys thleoptikoys staqmoys eqnikhs embeleias einai eji. Apo kei kai pera, qa doqoyn polles adeies gia staqmoys perifereiakhs embeleias.

KAPPOS: Qa hqela ena sxolio sas gia thn yfesh twn agrotikwn kinhtopoihsewn kai kyriws se diastash ths symperiforas ths stashs twn agrotwn syndikalistwn ths N.D. Pws ektima kai kyriws ean ektima ws qetikh h kybernhsh sas th stash twn agrotwn syndikalistwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Den qelw na topoqethqw se paratajeis. Qewroyme oti exei ginei ena poly shmantiko ergo apo kybernhtikhs pleyras gia thn epilysh twn problhmatwn twn agrotwn. Anamfibola oi dikes toys protaseis elhfqhsan ypoch kai synebalan se ayth thn prospaqeia. Pisteyoyme oti h oristikh timh poy qa diamorfwqei gia to bambaki, symfwna me toys ypologismoys poy exoyn ginei, qa einai idiaitera ikanopoihtikh gia toys agrotes. Epishs, gnwrizete oti yphrje kai idiaitera ikanopoihtikh antimetwpish twn problhmatwn poy dhmioyrghqhkan apo tis fysikes katastrofes. Yphrje idiaitero endiaferon kai gia mia seira apo alla agrotika qemata kai eixame ejelijeis. Pisteyw oti katebalame kaqe prospaqeia gia na dwsoyme dikaies lyseis sta shmantika agrotika problhmata. Prepei, omws, na synexisoyme mazi me toys agrotes thn prospaqeia. Yparxei polys dromos gia na fqasoyme thn antagwnistikothta poy prepei, gia na katakthsoyme th dikh mas qesh sthn eniaia eyrwpaikh agora. Kai se ayto, anamfibola, prepei na synergastoyme. Qewrw idiaitera qetiko oti den dhmioyrghqhkan idiaitera problhmata sthn oikonomikh kai koinwnikh zwh ths Elladas. Prosblepoyme se ena karpoforo dialogo me tis enwseis twn agrotwn kai tis omospondies toys, prokeimenoy na sxediasoyme ton programmatismo gia to mellon, gia thn antagwnistikothta ths ellhnikhs gewrgias. Ekei qa xreiastei na synergastoyme stena.

KAPPOS: Sto xqesino fylo ths efhmeridas ``PRIN'' yparxei prwtoselidh kataggelia gia topoqethsh kameras, apo pleyras astynomias, ejw apo ta grafeia toy kommatos ``Neo Aristero Reyma''. Me dedomeno oti oi proeklogikes sygkentrwseis toy sygkekrimenoy kommatos, to opoio einai se ola nomimo, eixan periblhqei apo dynameis twn MAT kai me dedomeno oti polles fores andres ths astynomias me politika parabriskontai se syndikalistikes kai koinwnikes ekdhlwseis, rwtw eyqews, parakoloyqei ta kommata kai thn koinwnikh kai syndikalistikh zwh h kybernhsh sas, mesw ths astynomias h mesw allwn kentrwn;

PRWTOPAPAS: Fobamai oti exete meinei arketa xronia pisw.

KAPPOS: Ma h kamera den topoqethqhke prin apo xronia, topoqethqhke tis teleytaies hmeres.

PRWTOPAPAS: Ektimw oti to erwthma eprepe na eixe ypoblhqei, prin apo polla xronia, se alles kybernhseis.

KAPPOS: Dhladh, ayto shmainei oti h kamera einai anyparkth;

PRWTOPAPAS: Apanthsa hdh.

KAPPOS: Den nomizw. Den einai qema leptomereiwn, einai qema politikhs tajhs. Diaforetika h erwthsh qa apeyqynotan se enan armodio ypoyrgo. Epeidh, omws, einai politikhs h kybernhtikhs tajhs kai tajhs symperiforas ths kybernhshs apenanti se kapoia kommata, gi ayto erwtw esas edw.

PRWTOPAPAS: H kybernhsh den mporei na kathgorhqei apo kanenan oti xrhsimopoiei tetoies meqodoys h oti diakatexetai apo tetoies antilhceis. Ayta ta qemata exoyn kriqei. Ayth h kybernhsh einai poy proxwrhse to baqy ekdhmokratismo se ola ta zhthmata ths politikhs kai oikonomikhs zwhs toy topoy, apo to 1982.

PANAGIWTIDOY: To Sabbato, kata thn teleth enarjhs twn xeimerinwn Olympiakwn Agwnwn, xrhsimopoihqhkan apospasmata apo kapoio ergo toy Mikh Qeodwrakh. Wstoso to gegonos ayto aposiwphqhke kata thn krisimh stigmh, an mporoyme na to poyme etsi, dia ths afhs ths flogas. Exete kapoio sxolio gia to qema ayto;

PRWTOPAPAS: An kai h erwthsh eprepe na teqei kanonika sthn ERT, wstoso epeidh dhmioyrghqhke ena qema sto opoio apodidoyme idiaiterh prosoxh -kai apodidoyme idiaiterh prosoxh giati prokeitai gia ena poly sebasto proswpo, pagkosmioy fhmhs moysikosynqeth, o opoios panta proballei me ton kalytero tropo to orama ths Elladas dieqnws- kai idiaitero sebasmo sto Mikh Qeodwrakh, ereynhsame to qema kai prepei na sas pw oti synebh to ejhs: Sto programma poy eixe doqei stoys armodioys gia thn paroysiash, apo pleyras kratikhs radiothleorashs ths enarkthrias teleths twn Olympiakwn Agwnwn den yphrxe h sxetikh anafora sto Mikh Qeodwrakh. Oyte gia to sygkekrimeno kommati toy ergoy toy, giati apospasmata paixqhkan apo diafora erga pagkosmioy fhmhs synqetwn. Sth synexh roh twn kommatiwn poy anakroysthkan den yphrje kai h sxetikh anafora apo ton k. Kwstala, o opoios htan ekei. Ayto, omws, ofeilotan kaqara se adynamia enhmerwshs apo ta keimena poy eixe sta xeria toy. Dhmioyrghqhke mia mikrh parejhghsh. Molis enhmerwqhkame gia to qema ayto, o yfypoyrgos T. Xythrhs epikoinwnhse me thn ERT kai apokatastaqhke h sxetikh paralhch. Omws, mas koinopoihqhke FAX apo tis arxes ths Olympiadas, me to opoio mas plhroforoyn oti apo laqos twn diorganwtwn to onoma toy Mikh Qeodwrakh eixe paralhfqei apo to programma.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Kai mphke en synexeia, qa mpei;

PRWTOPAPAS: Ma, h teleth elhje.

KWNSTANTINIDHS: Epomenws, h dhlwsh den exei kamia shmasia.

PRWTOPAPAS: Na sas pw praktika ti eixe ginei. Yphrje mia synexhs roh apospasmatwn apo erga pagkosmioy fhmhs synqetwn. To sygkekrimeno kommati, gia paradeigma, htan diarkeias 27 deyteroleptwn. Yphrxan polla, to ena meta to allo. Ola ayta anaferontan sto programma poy eixe doqei apo th diorganwtria arxh. Eixe paralhfqei apo to programma to kommati poy aforoyse to Mikh Qeodwrakh, opws eleipan kai allwn synqetwn ta onomata, ta opoia prosteqhkan ek twn ysterwn. Qelw na ypogrammisw oti oydepote kaneis dianohqhke na meiwsei to ergo enos synqeth poy proballei thn Ellada dieqnws, ena ergo poy apotelei shmantikh parakataqhkh gia ton politismo mas.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eipate oti o Prwqypoyrgos enhmerwqhke gia thn epistolh Tzem. Apo poion enhmerwqhke;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos pantote enhmerwnetai apo toys armodioys ypoyrgoys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Apo poion apo ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn G. Papandreoy;

PRWTOPAPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos enhmerwnetai apo toys armodioys ypoyrgoys. Den blepw to logo na apanthsw sta aytonohta.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai kati akoma gia thn kamera poy eipate oti ...se alles epoxes. H kamera mphke twra, den mphke se alles epoxes. Qa thn afairesete apo kei, to gnwrizete;

PRWTOPAPAS: Exw apanthsei se ayto to qema.

Qelw teleiwnontas na kanw ena sxolio sxetika me thn episkech toy k. Karamanlh sto Nosokomeio ``Swthria'' kai thn anakoinwsh poy exei ekdoqei apo th N.D.. Epitiqetai ston Prwqypoyrgo kai thn kybernhshs. S` ayta poy yposthrizei o Proedros ths N.D. exw na apanthsw, oti einai gnwsto oti yphrxan kai yparxoyn problhmata sta Nosokomeia. Einai, omws, ejisoy gnwsto oti ejelissetai ena terastio, ena idiaitero shmantiko ergo anabaqmishs toys. To ergo ayto to blepei sthn prajh kaqhmerina o ellhnikos laos kai enhmerwnontai gi ayto osoi to epiqymoyn apo th N.D. Emeis, qewroyme kaqhkon mas na synexisoyme me gorgoys ryqmoys kai na oloklhrwsoyme ayto to ergo. Afhnoyme ston k. Karamanlh ta @sooy@ apo thn thleorash. Emeis asxoloymaste me to ergo mas. O k. Karamanlhs, einai gnwsto, oti den mporei na kanei thn opoiasdhpote morfhs epi ths oysias antipoliteysh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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