Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-05-18

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 18 Maioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Ayth thn wra o Prwqypoyrgos syzhta me thn Prwqypoyrgo ths N. Zhlandias k. Klark, h opoia episkeptetai epishmws th xwra mas. Qa parateqei geyma kai qa ginoyn dhlwseis.

Ayrio to prwi, opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos, epikefalhs antiproswpeias kybernhtikwn kai kommatikwn stelexwn anaxwrei gia th Xio, opoy qa pragmatopoihsei dihmerh periodeia.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

SOYRMELIDHS: Thn erxomenh ebdomada qa stalei apo ton k. Giannitsh epistolh pros th GSEE kai thn ADEDY gia dialogo;

REPPAS: Pragmati, sthn arxh ths epomenhs ebdomadas o k. Giannitshs qa apeyqynqei sth GSEE me epistolh-prosklhsh kai qa kalesei thn hgesia ths na proselqei se syzhthsh gia to asfalistiko.

MIXAHL: Ti prosdokate apo ayth thn prosklhsh, meta kai th xqesinh apergia;

REPPAS: H xqesinh diadhlwsh htan megalh. Einai dhmokratiko dikaiwma twn politwn na ekfrazoyn tis apoceis toys. Gnwrizete poly kala oti to qema ayto apasxolei to megalytero tmhma toy plhqysmoy ths xwras mas. Bebaiws, apasxolei idiaiterws kai thn kybernhsh. Oloi deixnoyme eyaisqhsia kai endiaferon na xeiristoyme kai na antimetwpisoyme apotelesmatika ayto to zhthma. Exei megalh shmasia na deijoyme twra sto pedio eyqynhs poy den einai allo apo to trapezi toy koinwnikoy dialogoy poso etoimoi eimaste na prowqhsoyme tis aparaithtes lyseis. Qa apeyqynqoyme stoys ergazomenoys, qa zhthsoyme th dikh toys symbolh kai syneisfora sto dialogo, sthn kateyqynsh ths anazhthshs lyshs toy problhmatos. Pisteyoyme oti qa antapokriqoyn, giati to qema ayto den prosferetai gia th dhmioyrgia entypwsewn. To pedio koinwnikoy dialogoy, to exw pei kat` epanalhch kai to epanalambanw, den mporei na apotelesei pedio gia thn anadeijh nikhtwn kai htthmenwn. Apo to dialogo ayto prepei na bgoyn kerdismenoi oi ergazomenoi, h ellhnikh koinwnia, h xwra.

MIXAHL: Shmera akoysame kapoies dhlwseis toy k. Polyzwgopoyloy me tis opoies zhtaei thn ekkinhsh gia th dieyrynsh ths trimeroys xrhmatodothshs, wste na jekinhsei o dialogos.

REPPAS: Exoyme pei oti o dialogos aytos prepei na einai ef` olhs ths ylhs, xwris proapaitoymena. Sto plaisio aytoy toy dialogoy kaqenas qa exei th dynatothta na tekmhriwsei tis qeseis toy kai na deijei oti prepei na ginoyn sebastes kai apodektes. Pisteyw oti opoioi -kai den einai ligoi- anaferontai se ayto to qema parabiazoyn anoiktes portes. O idios o Prwqypoyrgos exei eggyhqei thn kratikh xrhmatodotikh sthrijh toy asfalistikoy systhmatos. Exei pei, malista, me tropo safestato oti ayto poy prepei, metajy twn allwn, na syzhthqei einai h ektash ths kratikhs xrhmatodothshs gia thn enisxysh toy asfalistikoy systhmatos. To kratos qa antapokriqei se ayto. To exei eggyhqei o idios o Prwqypoyrgos kai prepei na to qewreite dedomeno. Katopin toytoy, den prepei na mas aixmalwtizoyn lejeis h fraseis, oi opoies dhmioyrgoyn entypwseis, xwris na exoyn analogo oysiastiko periexomeno. Afoy to kratos xrhmatodotei, analambanei ayth thn ypoxrewsh. Ta alla merh einai oi asfalismenoi kai oi ergodotes. Ara, loipon, den yparxei diastash sto qema ayto. Pisteyw oti ayto den mporei na apotelesei shmeio antidikias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Mono sth GSEE qa steilei epistolh o ypoyrgos Ergasias;

REPPAS: Kat` arxas qa apeyqynqei sth GSEE kai qa zhthsei tis apoceis ths. O dialogos prepei na ginei me enan orismeno tropo, na exei orismenh diarqrwsh, prokeimenoy na einai apotelesmatikos. Milhsame gia koinwniko dialogo poy qa ginei me syntetagmeno tropo. H prwth kinhsh, loipon, einai ayth.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H kratikh epixorhghsh qa afora to diasthma prin kai meta to `93;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti h kybernhsh exei eggyhqei thn kratikh xrhmatodothsh toy asfalistikoy systhmatos. Ayta ta qemata qa syzhthqoyn sto plaisio toy koinwnikoy dialogoy kai bebaiws, lambanontas pantote ypoch tis oikonomikes dynatothtes, ta barh poy mporei na shkwsei h ellhnikh oikonomia. Ola ayta, epanalambanw, mporei na antimetwpistoyn me kalh pisth, giati oloi qeloyme na lysoyme ena meizon problhma, opws einai to asfalistiko.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ti ennoeite oikonomikes dynatothtes;

REPPAS: Ennow ayto poy prepei na ektimhqei, me bash sygkekrimena stoixeia poy apoteloyn kai to plaisio twn dedomenwn gia th xwra mas. Qa prepei, loipon, na gnwrizoyme ta dedomena, prokeimenoy na doyme poia einai h ektash twn barwn poy qa analabei h kaqe pleyra.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Tote pws yposxetai o Prwqypoyrgos, afoy den exei ta oikonomika dedomena;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos eggyatai oti to kratos qa sthrijei xrhmatodotika to systhma. Ayto poy qa syzhthqei -kai to exei pei o Prwqypoyrgos, to eipa ki egw molis prin- einai h ektash ayths ths xrhmatodothshs, h opoia qa apotelesei stoixeio toy dialogoy kai einai apolytws synarthmenh me tis dynatothtes poy yparxoyn sto plaisio ths ellhnikhs oikonomias.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Dhladh, to prin kai meta to 1993 einai pros syzhthsh;

REPPAS: Anamenoyme tis dhlwseis kai tis protaseis twn ekproswpwn twn ergazomenwn. Oloi osoi symmetexoyn s` ayto ton koinwniko dialogo qa kanoyn protaseis tis opoies qa exoyme th dynatothta na ajiologhsoyme gia na bgaloyme ta symperasmata mas. Den qa kanoyme twra dialogo, prin kan apeyqynqei h prosklhsh toy ypoyrgoy pros thn hgesia ths GSEE gi` ayta ta qemata.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Prwqypoyrgos esteile thlegrafhma ston Mperloyskoni;

REPPAS: Esteile sygxarhthrio thlegrafhma ston eklegenta Prwqypoyrgo ths Italias, tis prohgoymenes hmeres.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Giati den to koinopoihsate;

REPPAS: Synepese h xqesinh apergia poy den anakoinwqhke. O Prwqypoyrgos sth sygxarhthria epistolh toy dhlwnei oti prosblepei se peraiterw synergasia twn dyo xwrwn, opws epishs kai sth qetikh symbolh ths italikhs kybernhshs sth diadikasia proodoy ths eyrwpaikhs enopoihshs.

BIDALH: Xqes, kata th synanthsh toy Prwqypoyrgoy me ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, syzhthqhke h diaforetikh proseggish, kyriws sta ellhnotoyrkika, apo alla stelexh toy Kinhmatos kai melh ths kybernhshs;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete oti h politikh poy askei h kybernhsh einai eniaia kai exei apofasistei sta kybernhtika organa. Den yparxoyn diaforetikes proseggiseis. Allwste, se polloys tomeis exoyme ta peisthria, wste na mporoyme abiasta na poyme, pws h ejwterikh politikh poy askoyme einai epityxhmenh kai dinei apotelesmata. Molis prosfato einai to paradeigma, gia to opoio milhsame edw tis prohgoymenes hmeres, ths anagnwrishs apo thn pleyra twn organwn ths E.E. toy gegonotos oti h Kypros einai h xwra poy brisketai pio konta apo tis alles ypochfies xwres, gia na entaxqei sthn E.E.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Eipate oti den prepei na aixmalwtizomaste se lejeis kai fraseis, otan milame gia trimerh xrhmatodothsh. Tote, giati tis prohgoymenes hmeres kanena kybernhtiko stelexos, opws yposthrizoyn oi syndikalistes, den exei milhsei gia trimerh xrhmatodothsh kai mila aplws gi` ayth thn kratikh sthrijh;

REPPAS: O Prwqypoyrgos kai h kybernhsh eggywntai thn kratikh xrhmatodotikh sthrijh toy systhmatos. Ena apo ta tria merh einai to kratos. To kratos, loipon, xrhmatodotei kai einai etoimo na syzhthsei thn ektash ayths ths xrhmatodothshs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: H ellhnikh kybernhsh qewrei oti ta leyka kelia sthn Toyrkia einai parabiash twn anqrwpinwn dikaiwmatwn kai toy swfronistikoy systhmatos;

REPPAS: Exoyme kataggeilei, kat` epanalhch -ayth einai h pragmatikothta kai mhn prospaqeite na dhmioyrghste entypwseis- to kaqestws leitoyrgias twn fylakwn ths Toyrkias. Exoyme anaferqei sta problhmata poy antimetwpizoyn oi polites sthn Toyrkia, epeidh ta periorismena dhmokratika dikaiwmata toys den toys epitrepoyn na kinoyntai, opws oi polites stis xwres ths E.E. Ola ayta, exoyme pei oti apoteloyn ena akomh stoixeio ajiologhshs ths Toyrkias, sto plaisio ths etairikhs sxeshs. Na, ena akomh paradeigma poy mporw na anaferw, gia to poso epityxhs einai h ejwterikh politikh poy askoyme. H etairikh sxesh metajy E.E. kai Toyrkias einai o deikths basei toy opoioy qa krinetai kaqe fora h politikh ths Toyrkias kai ston tomea ayto. Ara, loipon, qa prepei, kaqws syzhtoyme gi` ayta ta problhmata, na enqarrynoyme h kai na piezoyme, an qelete, th geitonikh xwra na kanei thn analogh proodo. Kai oso yparxoyn ayta ta problhmata, prepei na ta epishmainoyme kai na kataggelloyme aytoys poy exoyn eyqynh. Me ena tetoio tropo, omws, poy den qa odhgei sth lanqasmenh entypwsh oti qeloyme na parameinei ayth h katastash esaei sthn Toyrkia, wste na exoyme kati na kataggelloyme. Emeis qeloyme ayth h katastash na jeperastei kai h Toyrkia na ginei mia sygxronh, dhmokratikh, aneptygmenh xwra. Giati, ayto einai to diko ths symferon, to symferon toy laoy ths, to symferon twn geitonwn ths kai ths Eyrwphs.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O k. Papandreoy thn jerei ayth thn politikh h kanei dikh toy; Giati stis Bryjelles emfanisthke ws synhgoros aytwn twn keliwn.

REPPAS: O k. Papandreoy prepei na sas pw oti askei -bebaiws- thn politikh poy exei apofasisei sto plaisio syllogikwn organwn h kybernhsh kai einai enas politikos poy exei dieqnh aktinobolia. H paroysia toy einai poly shmantikh kai o logos toy exei idiaitero baros, sto plaisio ths E.E., epeidh akribws oi prwtoboylies toy exoyn odhghsei th xwra mas shmera se mia qesh poly kalyterh apo ekeinh sthn opoia briskotan liga xronia prin. H kybernhsh mas exei petyxei shmantika apotelesmata ston tomea ayto. Prepei na epainoyme -eseis, o ellhnikos laos- toys politikoys, oi opoioi ston tomea toys odhgoyn ta pragmata se ena tetoio epipedo, anti na memcimoiroyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Na epainesoyme, dhladh, kai gia th stash toy stis Bryjelles gia ta leyka kelia;

REPPAS: Na epainesete ton ypoyrgo Ejwterikwn, o opoios ekproswpei dieqnws th xwra mas me ton kalytero tropo. Kai oson afora tis ellhno-toyrkikes sxeseis, prepei na sas pw oti h Ellada pote, edw kai polla xronia, den breqhke se toso kalo shmeio oso ayto sto opoio briskomaste shmera, xarh stis prwtoboylies ths kybernhshs kai bebaiws toy ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn.

FLORES: Poia qa einai h grammh poy qa krathsei h Ellada sthn apanthsh poy prepei na dwsei sto Dikasthrio Anqrwpinwn Dikaiwmatwn, gia to qema toy ekptwtoy basilia;

REPPAS: H kybernhsh qa kataqesei to ypomnhma ths tis epomenes hmeres. H proqesmia lhgei stis 25 Maioy. H qesh mas einai ligo-poly gnwsth. Paramenoyme sta epixeirhmata poy exoyme anaptyjei. Diatypwnoyme kapoies idees. Qa moy epitrecete, omws, kai gia logoys taktikhs, na mhn anaferqw sto periexomenoy toy mnhmonioy, prin katateqei.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Qa to dwsete sth dhmosiothta otan katateqei;

REPPAS: Bebaiws.

Sas eyxaristw.

Kalo Sabbatokyriako.

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