Greek Government Press Briefing, 01-02-08

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 8 Febroyarioy 2001

JENOY TYPOY APO TON YFYPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS THLEMAXO XYTHRH

Geia sas.

Sth Boylh, opws parakoloyqoyme oloi mas, diejagetai h syzhthsh gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos. To PASOK paroysiazei mia sygkrothmenh qesh kai apoch. Syzhta tis qeseis toy aytes, tis yposthrizei me th deoysa sobarothta, exontas plhrh epignwsh toy gegonotos oti prokeitai gia ton Katastatiko Xarth ths xwras. Kai o Katastatikos Xarths den mporei oyte anefarmostos na einai, oyte kai "lastixo" na ginetai. Prepei kyriws na einai sebastos apo oloys.

Den qa mporoysa na pw to idio kai gia th Nea Dhmokratia ths opoias oi qeseis kai h politikh einai "alla ant` allwn". Kanei enan eykairiako antartopolemo kat` arqro. Fobamai oti ypotima kai thn anaqewrhsh kai to Syntagma kai toys Ellhnes polites poy parakoloyqoyn.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

MIXAHL: Kat` arxhn, na jekinhsw apo ayto poy eipate. H kybernhsh, dia dhlwsews kai toy Prwqypoyrgoy, otan eprokeito na arxisei syzhthsh gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos, zhthse th symbolh olwn twn pleyrwn toy Koinoboylioy gia na dhmioyrgei ena klima synaineshs. Ypoqetw oti ayto to klima synaineshs den afora mono ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs, afora kai thn kybernhsh. Ta kommata ths antipoliteyshs den symfwnoyn se polles apoceis ths kybernhshs. Pws, loipon, eseis isxyrizeste oti exete mia sygkrothmenh apoch, alla den "teinete eyhkoon oys" se alles protaseis;

XYTHRHS: H kybernhsh kinhqhke me metro, giati prokeitai gia to Syntagma, pragma to opoio den diakrinei thn antipoliteysh. Apo ekei kai pera, den qa ypeiselqw sta epimeroys arqra. Den einai diko mas ergo ayto. Qa parapemcw sth Boylh.

MIXAHL: Xqes, apanthsate me poly sklhrh glwssa ston arqrografo twn "L.A. Times" k. Meri. Alla, opws shmera metadidei o radiofwnikos staqmos ALPHA o idios arqrografos dhmosieyse arqro sto epishmo periodiko toy repoymplikanikoy kommatos, sto opoio einai akoma pio ojys sthn kritikh toy gia thn tromokratia sthn Ellada. Pws sxoliazete to gegonos;

XYTHRHS: Me prokaleite, dhladh, na eimai ki egw pio ojys stoys xarakthrismoys moy, analoga me thn ojythta twn arqrwn toy k. Meri. Ayta ta opoia eipa xqes, isxyoyn apolytws. Qa proseqeta, -gia na deijw th geloiothta toy andros- mias kai anaferete ayto to arqro, oti yparxei kai h frash "einai sxedon bebaio oti o k. Shmiths den einai amesa anamemeigmenos me thn tromokratia". Antilambaneste, loipon, to megeqos ths geloiothtas toy k. Meri. Poios qa zhtoyse gi` ayta ta qemata, pote, pistopoihtiko apo ton k. Meri; O anqrwpos einai enas probokatoras.

MIXAHL: Den sas problhmatizei to gegonos oti aytes tis probokatsies, opws tis apokalesate, tis filojenei to epishmo periodiko toy kommatos poy kyberna ayth th stigmh tis HPA, toy opoioy o arxhgos einai Proedros twn HPA kai planhtarxhs;

XYTHRHS: Kanw kriseis epi ths oysias twn arqrwn kai twn apocewn toy k. Meri.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Shmera eipate oti o k. Meri einai geloios kai probokatoras. Xqes, ton apokalesate apotyxhmeno ypallhlo. Pws einai dynaton enas apotyxhmenos ypallhlos, o opoios apodeiknyetai geloios kai probokatoras, molis ena xrono prin, na pairnei adeia apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh kai na synantatai me ton ypoyrgo Eqnikhs Amynas kai me ton Proedro ths Dhmokratias, wste na antlhsei apoceis gia thn ellhnikh ejwterikh politikh; Thn adeia thn phre apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh.

XYTHRHS: Me ayto poy lete, epibebaiwnete ayta ta opoia yposthrija xqes gia ton k. Meri. Prosqeste kai kati akoma: oti einai kai kakopistos. Dioti h Ellada, ola ayta ta xronia, profanws anoikth kai dhmokratikh, dinei th dynatothta se opoiondhpote erxetai -den jerw ayto poy lete- kai qelei na syzhthsei diafora qemata. Den to kanoyme mono me ton k. Meri, o opoios profanws den qa hrqe monos toy, qa hrqe mazi me alloys. Kata kairoys episkeptontai thn Ellada diaforoi gia na syzhthsoyn diafora qemata. H Ellada toys dexetai kai syzhta mazi toys. Egw o idios, peripoy kaqe ebdomada, dexomai jenoys, me toys opoioys syzhtw gia diafora qemata, opws gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes, thn poreia twn ergwn, otidhpote toys endiaferei. Einai mia dhmokratikh taktikh, h opoia afora thn enhmerwsh.

KAPPOS: O k. Meri eixe dwsei deigmata grafhs, otan eixe ginei ayth h synanthsh. Tote den htan probokatoras kai geloios;

XYTHRHS: Apodeiknyetai ek twn ysterwn oti htan.

KAPPOS: Ara, h ellhnikh kybernhsh milhse me ena probokatora kai geloio.

XYTHRHS: Allh erwthsh.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Aytos o geloios probokatoras eipe xqes oti antlei tis plhrofories toy apo kapoioys poy profanws h kybernhsh toys qewrei sobaroys. Ti hqele na pei, oti antlei tis plhrofories apo th CIA kai to FBI; Qa hqela na sas rwthsw, an qa zhthqoyn dieykriniseis apo ta tmhmata ths CIA kai toy FBI poy briskontai sthn Ellada gia na syllaboyn toys tromokrates kai an qa apeyqynqeite kai stis arxes twn HPA gia to gegonos oti enas geloios probokatoras leei oti oi yphresies poy exoyn erqei sthn Ellada gia na piasoyn toys tromokrates, dinoyn plhrofories se geloioys probokatores gia na probokaroyn thn Ellada;

XYTHRHS: Me prokaleite na symplhrwnw toys xarakthrismoys moy gia ton k. Meri. Profanws einai kai anajiopistos, meta apo ola ayta.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Qelete na peite oti epikoinwnhsate me to FBI kai th CIA kai dieceysan toys isxyrismoys toy k. Meri;

XYTHRHS: Xarakthrisa toys isxyrismoys toy k. Meri. Den dinw synexeia stoys isxyrismoys aytoys, dioti einai geloioi. An edina synexeia, tote qa eprokeito peri sobarwn isxyrismwn. Den einai.

KAPPOS: Epeidh to qema ayto den einai mono qema Meri, einai qema sygkekrimenwn yphresiwn....

XYTHRHS: Ayta ta lete eseis.

KAPPOS: Egeiretai qema sygkekrimenwn yphresiwn twn HPA, pragma poy shmainei oti h olh katastash einai kaqara politikh. Den anaferomaste mono sto geloio Meri, anaferomaste se sygkekrimenes yphresies jenoy kratoys.

XYTHRHS: To ``anaferomaste'' den isxyei. Anaferetai o k. Meri, o opoios einai geloios, probokatoras k.t.l. Mh dinete synexeia sto qema.

ALEJAKH: Den exoyme mono ton k. Meri exoyme kai ton k. Tenet.

XYTHRHS: Ayto einai allo qema. Den syndeetai me ayto.

KAPPOS: Sthn periptwsh ayth qa yparjei kapoio diabhma apo thn ellhnikh kybernhsh;

XYTHRHS: Me rwtate profanws gia thn kataqesh poy ekane o k. Tenet, xqes, se mia diadikasia poy yparxei sthn amerikanikh Geroysia, sthn Epitroph Mystikwn Plhroforiwn. Einai mia diadikasia, sto plaisio ths opoias kateqese ontws o k. Tenet. Prepei na sas pw oti kateqese mia ekqesh grapth, sthn opoia den anaferetai kaqoloy h Ellada. Kai ayto exei th shmasia toy. Se erwthsh poy toy egine, apanthse yphresiaka, legontas oti prepei na ginei megalyterh prospaqeia. Thn prospaqeia ayth kai th leme kai thn pragmatopoioyme. Gnwrizete oti sthn Ellada exoyn ginei sto parelqon megales aqlhtikes diorganwseis. Sas ypenqymisw oti to 1997 egine to pagkosmio prwtaqlhma stiboy, kai den espase myth. H proetoimasia htan swsth. H proetoimasia poy kanoyme kai twra einai pio systhmatikh, me kalytero sxediasmo kai megalyterh prosoxh sta qemata ths asfaleias. Eimaste ikanopoihmenoi apo ayth thn proetoimasia, oxi mono emeis, alla kai aytoi poy eidikotera lambanoyn meros. Na baloyme mia teleia se ayto to qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, h ellhnikh kybernhsh exei kamia epafh me th nea kybernhsh twn HPA;

XYTHRHS: H nea kybernhsh twn HPA orkisthke prosfata kai profanws oi epafes aytes -giati den yparxei mono h Ellada, yparxoyn kai polles alles xwres, gia tis opoies qa erqei se epafh- prokeitai na ginoyn.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Pote, exoyme xronodiagramma;

XYTHRHS: Oxi, den exoyme. Emeis to kanoyme to xronodiagramma;

STAMATOPOYLOS: Exete apeyqynqei se kapoio grafeio.

XYTHRHS: Den apeyqynomaste se grafeia.

STAMATOPOYLOS: ... gia na sas ftiajei tis sxeseis me th nea kybernhsh; Giati etsi exei grafei, oti exete apeyqynqei, epeidh h nea kybernhsh, o ypoyrgos Ejwterikwn sygkekrimena, dexqhke ton Prwqypoyrgo ths Gioygkoslabias kai toys dyo Kosobaroys kai oti emas mas bgazei ejw apo ta Balkania. Einai alhqeia h oxi;

XYTHRHS: Ayta poy lete einai isxyrismoi poy den exoyn bash.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Eidan to fws ths dhmosiothtas, omws. Ta diaceydete;

XYTHRHS: O,ti blepei to fws ths dhmosiothtas, den paei na pei oti exei kai bash.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Ta diaceydete;

XYTHRHS: Kat` arxhn diaceydw oti yparxei grafeio dhmosiwn sxesewn, to opoio epidiwkei ayta ta opoia anaferete. Den yparxei kati tetoio. Stis HPA, opws kai pantoy, yparxoyn epishmes yphresies ths Elladas. An xreiastei, giati yparxei mia tetoia dieqnhs taktikh, na yparjei tetoio grafeio poy na yposthrizei tis qeseis ths Elladas sto ejwteriko kai eidikotera stis HPA, an krinoyme oti xreiazetai, tote qa yparjei. Alla, den yparxei kati tetoio.

Oi sxeseis ths Elladas kai me th nea kybernhsh einai staqeres, einai kales. Den yparxei kanenas logos anhsyxias, oson afora th staqerothta twn sxesewn aytwn.

KAPPOS: Apo ayta poy eipate synagetai profanws oti den exei yparjei mexri twra kai oyte qa yparjei sto eggys mellon kapoia thlefwnikh epafh toy Proedroy Mpoys me ton Ellhna Prwqypoyrgo.

XYTHRHS: Egw den apantw, bebaiws, ek meroys toy k. Mpoys.

KAPPOS: Rwtw ean yparxoyn epafes me th nea kybernhsh.

XYTHRHS: Qa yparjoyn epafes me th nea kybernhsh. Mh nomizete oti to prwto poy kanei mia kybernhsh einai na exei epafes mazi mas.

KAPPOS: Den yparxei toylaxiston se ejelijh, mia diadikasia diagwnismoy gia anaqesh se grafeio dhmosiwn sxesewn toy ejwterikoy twn qematwn ths xwras;

XYTHRHS: Allo einai ayto. Yphrxe palia kati tetoio, to opoio omws den synexisthke telika, den egine.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Mhpws, exete kapoio sxolio gia to xqesino tromokratiko ktyphma ejw apo to Leyko Oiko;

XYTHRHS: Den exw kanena sxolio.

I. KAMPOYRAKHS: Oi xarakthrismoi gia ton k. Meri tis prohgoymenes hmeres, htan para polloi. Par ola ayta ta kinhtra toy k. Meri exoyn apasxolhsei thn kybernhsh;

XYTHRHS: Kaqe fora poy me rwtate gia ton k. Meri qa prosqetw ki ena xarakthrismo. Einai paranoikos.

KARGOYDH: Eipate oti oi qeseis ths N.D. gia thn anaqewrhsh toy Syntagmatos einai ``alla ant` allwn''. Qelw na rwthsw ean me ayto ennoeite tis diaforetikes proseggiseis poy ekdhlwqhkan xqes apo ton k. Karamanlh kai ton k. Mhtsotakh h aytes kaq` eaytes oi qeseis toy k. Karamanlh einai ``alla ant` allwn''.

XYTHRHS: Ennow oysia kai emfanish. Ennow kai ta dyo. Dhladh kai tis qeseis kai ton tropo paroysiashs.

KAPPOS: Prwton, pws sxoliazei h ellhnikh kybernhsh th boylhsh ths Bretanias na apokthsei aigialitida zwnh sthn Kypro kai malista eyroys 12 miliwn kai deyteron, me ayto to dedomeno pws skeptetai na xeiristei to qema, pleon, ths aigialitidas zwnhs sto Aigaio;

XYTHRHS: To deytero qema einai poly gnwsto. Jerete tis qeseis ths ellhnikhs kybernhshs, mh dhmioyrgoyme twra kainoyrgies qeseis. Oson afora to prwto -me rwtate profanws me thn eykairia ths aneyreshs koitasmatwn petrelaioy notiws ths Kyproy- exw apanthsei kai epanalambanw oti einai ena qema poy me megalh eyqynh xeirizetai h idia h kypriakh kybernhsh.

Sas eyxaristw.

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