Greek Government Press Briefing, 00-01-12

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From: The Hellenic Ministry of Press & Mass Media <http://www.minpress.gr/>

& MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 12 Ianoyarioy 2000

EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

Akoyw tis erwthseis sas.

GARGALAKOS: Yphrxe, apo o,ti lene oi plhrofories, kapoia dixognwmia se sxesh me to ejoplistiko programma. Lyqhke ayth h dixognwmia sth shmerinh syskech;

REPPAS: Den yparxei dixognwmia. Gnwrizete poly kala pws se synedriaseis toy, to KYSEA exei apofasisei to ejoplistiko programma poy efarmozoyme. Oi synedriaseis toy KYSEA, otan prepei na lhfqoyn apofaseis gia th synexish toy ejoplistikoy programmatos, einai taktikes, opws epishs kai oi synergasies toy Prwqypoyrgoy einai taktikes, enocei synedriasewn toy KYSEA, me toys synarmodioys ypoyrgoys. To KYSEA prokeitai na synedriasei thn epomenh ebdomada, piqanotata stis 21 Ianoyarioy, opws arxikws eixame sxediasei. Den problepetai opoiadhpote allagh h parekklish apo ayta poy arxikws eixame apofasisei. Yparxei mia proseggish, bebaiws, apo kaqe pleyra, me bash tis proteraiothtes poy kaqe pleyra dinei sto qema. Alla, yparxei symfwnia gia to pws qa proxwrhsoyme sto ejoplistiko programma.

GARGALAKOS: Yparxei endexomeno sthn Ektakth Synodo Koryfhs, sth Lissabwna, na teqei to qema ths entajhs sthn ONE;

REPPAS: Blepw oti dhmioyrgeitai ena zhthma ek toy mh ontos. Tetoio qema den tiqetai. Oyte praktika einai efikto na ginei kati tetoio, oyte apotelei politikh epilogh mas. Qa prepei na oloklhrwqoyn oi diadikasies, symfwna me osa problepontai. Na leitoyrghsoyn ta qesmika organa ths E.E. se diafora stadia, en synexeia to ena toy alloy, na gnwmateysoyn, na ekdwsoyn apofaseis. H telikh apofash qa lhfqei sth Synodo Koryfhs, sthn Portogalia, stis 19 kai 20 Ioynioy. Den yparxei otidhpote allo, to opoio na mporei kapoios na xarakthrisei ws apofash ths E.E. gia thn entajh ths Elladas sthn ONE, apofash poy qa ekdoqei nwritera, me aformh th synedriash alloy organoy, akomh ki an ayto einai h idia h Koryfh, se ektakth Synodo ths. Den yparxei tetoio qema. Qa prepei na synedriasei to ECOFIN, qa prepei na gnwmodothsei to Eyrwpaiko Koinoboylio, qa prepei na synedriasoyn kai na gnwmodothsoyn h Eyrwpaikh Epitroph, h Eyrwpaikh Kentrikh Trapeza. Ola ayta, qa prepei na ginoyn symfwna me osa problepontai gia th leitoyrgia twn qesmikwn organwn ths E.E. Ara, h apofash qa lhfqei stis 19 kai 20 Ioynioy, sth Synodo Koryfhs, sth Santa Maria nta Feira toy Porto. Den allazei tipota ws pros ayto.

GEROPOYLOS: Mia dieykrinish. Otan lete oti den yparxei h politikh boylhsh, ennoeite apo thn pleyra ths kybernhshs na zhthsei kapoia epitaxynsh twn diadikasiwn;

REPPAS: Sas eipa oti den einai politikh epilogh. Emeis exoyme pei, eyqys ej arxhs, oti h entajh mas sthn ONE qa ginei ``me to spaqi mas''. Den qa einai apotelesma politikwn diapragmateysewn. Epiqymoyme na oloklhrwsoyme to ergo mas me epityxia, na ekplhrwsoyme ola ta krithria, prokeimenoy basei aytwn na kriqoyme kai na eiselqoyme sthn E.E., se ayto to tmhma ths, sth ``zwnh eyrw'', xwris na xreiazetai na kanoyme politikoy xarakthra syzhthseis. Na kriqoyme epi th basei sygkekrimenwn stoixeiwn poy qa apodeiknyoyn kai ta epityxh apotelesmata ths doyleias poy kaname. Bebaiws, me thn eykairia ayth, prepei na pw oti h doyleia poy prepei akomh na kanoyme einai shmantikh, einai dyskolh. Den prepei na teqei se kindyno h prospaqeia mas. Prepei na oloklhrwqei me epityxia. Giati apo kapoioys qewreitai oti to qema qa lhjei apo thn wra poy qa anakoinwqei to megeqos toy plhqwrismoy, kata to telos Febroyarioy- arxes Martioy. Oi syzhthseis poy qa akoloyqhsoyn kai qa aforoyn qemata gia th symmetoxh ths Elladas sthn ONE, meta thn entajh ths, asfalws, antilambaneste oti exoyn idiaitero endiaferon. Qa prepei ola ayta na ta xeiristoyme me poly ypeyqyno tropo, me gnwmona to eqniko symferon. Den qa prepei h prospaqeia ayth na meinei anoloklhrwth h na yponomeyqei apo syzhthseis, oi opoies aposkopoyn se alles epidiwjeis.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Symfwna me to xronodiagramma poy mas eipate, milame gia ekloges apo tis 20 Ioynioy kai meta@

REPPAS: Symfwna me ta osa sas exw pei, den milame kaqoloy gia ekloges.

FILIPPAKOPOYLOS: Kala, to Septembrio qa ginoyn@

REPPAS: Oi ekloges ginontai opws problepei to Syntagma, alla kai oi syzhthseis epitrepontai, asfalws, gia opoiodhpote qema kai gia tis ekloges. Emeis, omws, den miloyme gia alla pragmata, peran aytwn poy to idio to Syntagma rhtws anaferei gia to ti prepei na ginei. Sas parapempw, loipon, stis diatajeis toy Syntagmatos. Afoy tis gnwrizete toso kala, giati qetete erwthseis pali kai pali.

MIXAHL: To gegonos oti den milate gia ekloges, den shmainei oti den mporeite, basei twn diatajewn toy Syntagmatos, na tis kanete nwritera apo to telos ths qhteias sas. Elpizw na symperilhfqei ayto sthn apanthsh sas.

REPPAS: Ma, otan anaferomai sto Syntagma, anaferomai se osa syzhthsame edw kai se polla akomh, ta opoia oyte syzhthsame, oyte prokeitai na syzhthsoyme.

MIXAHL: Wraia. Opote, loipon, ki an ginoyn oi ekloges, h kybernhsh@

REPPAS: Qa tis kerdisei! Ayto to gnwrizete, gi ayto den to rwtate, profanws.

MIXAHL: Prin fqasei na tis kerdisei h kybernhsh xreiazetai na ginoyn kapoia pragmata. Kai sas rwtw, ean ena apo ayta poy prokeitai, poy mporei na ginei, einai to endexomeno allagwn ston eklogiko nomo, akomh kai sto plafon.

REPPAS: Den yparxei tetoio qema. Den antimetwpizetai qema allaghs toy eklogikoy systhmatos, oyte kata dianoia.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Ean osa eipate edw apodeixqoyn ayrio anakribh kai ayta ta exei dhmosieysei ayrio mia efhmerida, h eyqynh ths anakribeias barainei thn efhmerida h esas;

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola den exoyme pei kati to opoio na exei apodeixqei anakribes. Otan syzhtoyme, syzhtoyme me ta dedomena poy exoyme ypoch mas. Me bash ayta, oi apanthseis poy dinoyme sta erwthmata poy tiqentai, einai eilikrineis, ara eimaste akribeis. Sas kalw na moy peite pote eipame kati diaforetiko. Apo kei kai pera, antilambaneste oti yparxei mia dynamikh sth zwh, thn opoia oydeis mporei na prokatalabei. Den gnwrizw pws qa ejelixqoyn ta pragmata, meta apo ena xrono, meta apo dyo xronia. Egw milw me bash ayta ta opoia isxyoyn twra. O sxediasmos mas problepei ekloges to Septembrio toy 2000.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Egw milw gia allo qema, gi ayto qa to anaferw me diaforetiko tropo gia na ginw katanohtos. Ean kapoios politikos kanei kapoies dhlwseis, oi opoies apodeixqoyn@

REPPAS: Den qelete eyqews na kanete mia erwthsh; Giati eiste toso sibyllikos; Akoloyqeite th ``Swkratikh'' meqodo, dhladh; Ayto qelete na peite;

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Egw kanw thn erwthsh poy kanw. Kai apodeixqei anakribhs stis dhlwseis aytes. Par` ola ayta ta MME, opws exoyn ypoxrewsh, apotypwsoyn aytes tis dhlwseis, poios barynetai gia thn anakribeia; Ta MME poy apotypwnoyn tis anakribeis dhlwseis enos politikoy h o politikos poy tis kanei;

REPPAS: Ta MME exoyn syntagmatikh ypoxrewsh na prosferoyn enhmerwsh stoys polites kai taytoxrona na sebontai thn ajioprepeia kai thn proswpikothta twn politwn, stoys opoioys anaferontai. Einai basikos kanonas, basikh arxh apo thn opoia den prepei na parekklinoyme. Ayto qa prepei na ginetai se oles tis periptwseis. O sebasmos ths ajioprepeias toy polith einai panw apo ola, giati se teleytaia analysh h enhmerwsh ayto to skopo yphretei: Ton polith, prokeimenoy na einai enhmerwmenos otan pairnei tis apofaseis toy. Ola arxizoyn kai teleiwnoyn sto meizon agaqo poy prepei na perifroyrhsoyme, poy einai h proswpikothta toy anqrwpoy.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Epeidh gnwrizete, loipon, to erwthma poy kanw, qa to kanw kai eyqews. Qelw to sxolio sas gia thn agwgh, gia th mhnysh toy ypoyrgoy Dikaiosynhs kata efhmeridas, epeidh ayth dhmosieyse dhlwseis poy ton aforoysan, tritwn proswpwn.

REPPAS: Prwta ap ola, kaqe poliths s` ayth th xwra, etsi kai o ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs, exei th dynatothta, to dikaiwma kai thn ypoxrewsh -katw apo orismenes peristaseis- na ajiopoiei ta endika mesa poy exei sth diaqesh toy. Otan qewrei kapoios oti spilwnetai h timh kai h ypolhch toy h epidiwketai h politikh ejoydeterwsh toy, qa prepei na antimetwpisei tetoioy eidoys epiqeseis, poy pisteyei oti dexetai, me kaqe nomimo tropo. Kai h ajiopoihsh twn organwn ths Dikaiosynhs den nomizw oti mporei na apotelesei pedio gia na dexqei kapoios kritikh. Pisteyw oti einai mia diadikasia poy kalo einai, sto plaisio ths syntetagmenhs politeias, na akoloyqoyme oloi, anti na epidiwkoyme alloys tropoys antidrashs stis epiqeseis poy qewroyme oti dexomaste.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: To gegonos oti o ypoyrgos Dikaiosynhs apodeiknyetai se enan taktiko diadiko stis aiqoyses twn Dikasthriwn kai malista me emfash sto na exei apenanti toy kathgoroymenoys MME kai efhmerides, ws ypoyrgos Typoy pws to sxoliazete;

REPPAS: Qa elega oti ta MME qa eprepe na sebontai kai na throyn tis arxes toy Syntagmatos, na efarmozoyn toys kanones deontologias poy einai symfwnoi me aytes tis arxes toy Syntagmatos kai toys yfistamenoys nomoys. Kai bebaiws, opoios ginetai, syxnotata, stoxos tetoiwn epiqesewn, efoson qewrei oti oi epiqeseis aytes einai adikes, logiko einai aytos syxnotera apo alloys na epidiwkei na antimetwpisei aytes tis epiqeseis. Opoios den dexetai kamia epiqesh den exei kai logoys na antidra, afoy den yparxei epiqesh. Opoios qewrei oti dexetai epiqeseis, exei kaqe logo na analambanei tis sxetikes prwtoboylies.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Kai kati teleytaio. Oi efhmerides, ta MME sthn Ellada exoyn to dikaiwma na dhmosieyoyn kritikes poy aforoyn to proswpo toy k. Giannopoyloy, otan aytes oi kritikes askoyntai apo trita proswpa;

REPPAS: Oi efhmerides sthn Ellada, opws ola ta MME kaqe kathgorias, leitoyrgoyn eleyqera, xwris periorismoys, xwris logokrisia. Apo kei kai pera qa prepei na throyn orismenoys kanones. Giati bebaiws leitoyrgoyn eleyqera, mporoyn na dhmosieyoyn, na proballoyn qemata ths dikhs toys epiloghs kai krishs, ypokeintai, omws, se elegxo. Giati ayth h eleyqeria den shmainei katalysh twn kanonwn leitoyrgias mias syntetagmenhs politeias. H eleyqeria toy Typoy den einai se antiparaqesh me th leitoyrgia mias syntetagmenhs politeias. Einai se armonia me aythn.

Eyxaristw poly.

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