Greek Government Press Briefing, 98-05-18

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YPOYRGEIO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS

Aqhna, 18.5.1998

H ENHMERWSH TWN POLITIKWN SYNTAKTWN KAI TWN ANTAPOKRITWN JENOY TYPOY APO TON YPOYRGO TYPOY & MESWN MAZIKHS ENHMERWSHS KAI KYBERNHTIKO EKPROSWPO DHMHTRH REPPA

Geia sas.

O Prwqypoyrgos qa exei diafores synergasies ayth thn ebdomada. Qa elega, menontas se orismenes apo aytes, tis ejhs:

* Ayth thn wra exei synergasia me ton Proedro toy ESR k. Kasimath.

* Ayrio qa exei synergasia me toys ypoyrgoys poy synqetoyn th diypoyrgikh epitroph gia toys Olympiakoys Agwnes. Einai o k. Benizelos, o k. Papadhmas, o k. Paxtas kai o k. Berelhs.

* Ayrio, stis 14.30, sta Grafeia toy PASOK, qa dexqei toys ypochfioys nomarxes poy yposthrizei to PASOK. To apogeyma, stis 19.30, qa egkainiasei th leitoyrgia enos kentroy paroxhs ypokatastatwn twn narkwtikwn, sthn odo Kapodistrioy. Einai to deytero kentro, poy leitoyrgei sthn eyryterh perifereia ths Aqhnas.

KIAOS: Kai ta dyo einai sta Ejarxeia...

REPPAS: Nai. Einai to palaiotero sthn odo Eressoy. Einai sto kentro ths Aqhnas gia na einai eykolh h prosbash apo oloys toys endiaferomenoys.

* Thn Pempth, opws gnwrizete, o Prwqypoyrgos exei thn onomastikh toy eorth. Qa dexqei, sto Grafeio toy, eyxes.

DHMOSIOGRAFOS: Ti ennoeite, qa dexqei;

REPPAS: Gnwrizete ti egine ta dyo prohgoymena xronia.

LAKOPOYLOS: Yphrxan dyo taxythtes. To prwi phgainan ta stelexh toy PASOK kai to brady phgainan alloi...

REPPAS: Opoios qelei, phgainei.

LAKOPOYLOS: Olh hmera;

REPPAS: Einai kapoies wres, dyo wres to prwi kai dyo wres to brady.

* Thn Paraskeyh qa ginei h synedriash ths Enwshs Nomarxiakwn Aytodioikhsewn Elladas, to prwi stis 9.30. Qa parastei o Prwqypoyrgos kai qa ekfwnhsei logo. Meta, sto Megaro Majimoy, qa ginei koinh synedriash ths Kybernhtikhs Epitrophs kai ths Politikhs Grammateias, sto plaisio twn taktikwn synedriasewn, me qemata sygkyrias, dhladh oi politikes ejelijeis. Gnwrizete oti h syzhthsh se aytes tis synedriaseis den odhgei sth lhch sygkekrimenwn apofasewn. Einai mia genikh syzhthsh gia ta qemata ths sygkyrias. Qa syzhthsoyme, bebaiws, an rwtate gi` ayto, ta qemata poy aforoyn thn chfiakh/doryforikh - syndromhtikh thleorash.

Ayta se poly genikes grammes.

LIARELLHS: Ara, shmainei oti einai epilogh sas thn Paraskeyh, na mh lhfqei apofash;

REPPAS: Den einai typiko organo to koino ayto swma twn dyo organwn, ara den lambanontai, me thn typikh morfh toys, apofaseis ths Kybernhshs. Syzhtoyntai qemata kai orizontai plaisia politikhs gia diafora qemata. Qa mas apasxolhsoyn diafora qemata, opws kai ayto.

LAKOPOYLOS: Sthn Kentrikh Epitroph toy PASOK, enas ariqmos stelexwn, metajy twn opoiwn o Proedros mias kratikhs Trapezas, o Epitropos k. Papoytshs, zhthsan epanejetash ths politikhs ths Kybernhshs gia tis idiwtikopoihseis kai gia ta ergasiaka qemata. Ektima h Kybernhsh oti ayto dysxerainei tis prospaqeies ths sthn efarmogh ths politikhs ths;

REPPAS: Den qa sxoliasoyme tis synedriaseis twn kommatikwn organwn. Gnwrizete poia einai h politikh poy exei ejaggeilei h Kybernhsh. O Prwqypoyrgos, apeyqynomenos sta melh ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs, milhse kai pali gia thn politikh ayth. Eipe xarakthristika oti qa prepei o dialogos na epidiwketai me olh thn koinwnia kai oxi me to mikro ekeino tmhma toy plhqysmoy, to opoio ergazetai se ena sygkekrimeno tomea kai exei, sto megalytero h mikrotero baqmo, mia syntexniakh antilhch gia thn antimetwpish twn qematwn toy sygkekrimenoy tomea. Oi apoceis, oi opoies ekteqhkan apo alloys syntrofoys, melh ths K.E., einai kai aytes gnwstes. Pairnoyn dhmosiothta aytes oi synedriaseis. Egw den exw na kanw opoiodhpote sxolio. H Kybernhsh synexizei tis prospaqeies poy exei kanei, sto plaisio ths politikhs poy exei ejaggeilei. Ayth einai h entolh poy exoyme apo to lao, ayth einai kai h apofash ths megalhs pleiochfias ths Kentrikhs Epitrophs: To plaisio ths Kybernhtikhs politikhs poy exoyme ejaggeilei, na to efarmosoyme, synexizontas ayth thn prospaqeia, poy edw kai kairo, exoyme analabei, na odhghsoyme thn Ellada me epityxia ston teliko stoxo, gia thn entajh sthn ONE. Pragma, poy proypoqetei, apoklimakwsh toy plhqwrismoy, meiwsh twn elleimmatwn, ptwsh twn epitokiwn, beltiwsh olwn ekeinwn twn deiktwn ths oikonomias poy martyroyn, apokalyptoyn mia ygih oikonomia. Ara, ejasfalizoyn kai proypoqeseis gia thn eyhmeria toy Ellhnikoy Laoy.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, omws o k. Papoytshs poy einai Epitropos kai exei topoqethqei ekei apo thn Kybernhsh, eipe oti ton Prwqypoyrgo den ton ypoxrewnei kaneis na kanei aytes tis apokratikopoihseis kai opws tis kanei.

REPPAS: Asfalws, den yparxei opoiadhpote entolh na akoloyqhseis sygkekrimena politika metra. Yparxei, omws, ena desmeytiko plaisio, to opoio orizei se ti epipedo prepei na kinhqoyn oi oikonomikoi deiktes. H Kybernhsh epeleje, prokeimenoy na epityxei ayth th beltiwsh toy epipedoy ths oikonomias mas, na akoloyqhsei ayth th sygkekrimenh politikh. Giati, pisteyoyme oti einai h pio apotelesmatikh, oxi mono gia na beltiwsoyme toys oikonomikoys deiktes -kai, bebaiws, mas endiaferei h statistikh, alla den yparxei monon h statistikh, yparxoyn kai oi anqrwpoi. Kyriws, akoloyqoyme ayth thn politikh, giati pisteyoyme oti etsi mono mporoyme me ajiwseis, entassomenoi ayrio sthn ONE, na eimaste antagwnistikoi, prokeimenoy na dhmioyrghsoyme qeseis apasxolhshs, na einai biwsimes oi ellhnikes epixeirhseis, na ayjhsoyme to eqniko eisodhma, ara kai to eisodhma twn politwn. Ayth einai h politikh poy akoloyqei h Kybernhsh. Pote h Kybernhsh den eipe oti yparxei kapoios koinotikos nomos, o opoios epiballei na kaneis sygkekrimenes politikes epiloges. Yparxei, omws, ena plaisio, to opoio se desmeyei. Kai gnwrizete oti se alles xwres, prokeimenoy na epityxoyn aytoys toys deiktes, exoyn akoloyqhsei mia politikh ston tomea p.x. twn idiwtikopoihsewn, h opoia den exei kamia sxesh me ton hpio tropo, me ton opoio xeirizetai ta qemata ayta h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh. Ola ayta den prepei na ta parablepoyme. Na parablepoyme, dhladh, oti se alles xwres ths E.E. eixame ejakontish toy deikth anergias se pososta poly ychla, poy einai dyskolo na ta antejei mia koinwnia. Emeis, loipon, epeidh kai ayton ton koinwniko deikth ton lambanoyme ypoch, akoloyqoyme mia politikh, h opoia mas fernei konta stoys stoxoys, den parablepei, omws, oti h prospaqeia ayth prepei na ginei me eyaisqhsia, prokeimenoy na ejasfalisoyme kai thn koinwnikh synoxh. Ayto kanoyme.

STAMATOPOYLOS: O Ypoyrgos Eqnikhs Oikonomias, kat` epanalhch exei pei oti ayth thn politikh thn epiballei h E.E.

REPPAS: H E.E. desmeyei oles tis xwres ths E.E. -kai den mporei na einai ejairesh h Ellada- na throyn sto plaisio ths politikhs toys orismenoys deiktes, se sygkekrimena epipeda. Kaqe xwra mporei na epilejei to diko ths dromo, prokeimenoy na epityxei ayto to stoxo. Emeis epilejame ayto ton dromo, o opoios den einai allos, para enas sygkerasmos metajy mias oikonomikhs politikhs poy periexei kai idiwtikopoihseis, alla kai metra koinwnikhs eyaisqhsias kai allhleggyhs, prokeimenoy na diasfalisoyme thn koinwnikh synoxh.

KIAOS: Eseis, epeidh elexqh kai sth synedriash ths K.E., toy eyryteroy organoy poy eixate, eiste me to Zospen h me ton Mpler;

REPPAS: Egw eimai me to PASOK. Kai o Mpler kai o Zospen einai me to PASOK, giati to PASOK yphrxe prin anakoinwsoyn tis politikes toys oi dyo aytoi spoydaioi politikoi. Kai prepei na sas pw oti ayth einai h diafora: Milate gia dyo politikoys poy kybernoyn se megales xwres, se xwres poy einai apo tis pio isxyres toy Planhth. H Gallia kai h M. Bretania einai isxyres oikonomies. Anhkoyn sto "klamp" twn pio dynatwn xwrwn. H Ellada, bebaiws, den einai idia periptwsh. Ayto kanei kai to egxeirhma ths Kybernhshs toy PASOK na einai poly pio dyskolo kai gi` ayto akribws h prospaqeia poy kanoyme, qa prepei kai katw apo ayto to prisma na ejetazetai kai na ajiologeitai.

KIAOS: Sth synanthsh poy exei twra o Prwqypoyrgos me ton k. Kasimath, ton Proedro toy ESR, pws antimetwpizei h Kybernhsh th dysxereia poy diapistwnei to Symboylio kai th dysforia poy exei ekfrasei kai o k. Kasimaths gia to oti den mporei na stelexwsei to ESR, opws nomizei o idios;

REPPAS: Den exei ekfrasei to Symboylio kapoia dysxereia. O k. Kasimaths exei kanei dhlwseis tis opoies briskw yperbolikes, doqentos oti exei lhfqei merimna, prokeimenoy na stelexwqei to ESR me to proswpiko, to episthmoniko kai to ejeidikeymeno, poy xreiazetai. Einai se ejelijh oi diadikasies gia thn proslhch monimoy proswpikoy gia thn kalych twn 17 qesewn, prokeimenoy na stelexwqei to tmhma Elegxoy-Diafaneias. Einai se ejelijh h diadikasia gia th synach symbasewn ergoy, wste na ejetastei mia orismenh pleyra ths drasthriothtas poy afora thn paraxwrhsh adeiwn se radiothleoptikoys staqmoys sto Nomo Attikhs kai einai se ejelijh h diadikasia gia th synach twn symbasewn ergasias, me oktw episthmones, gia na yposthrixqei to Symboylio. Prepei na sas pw oti kapoies symbaseis exoyn hdh ypografei kai apo mena. H proslhch twn stelexwn exei proxwrhsei. Einai se symfwnia to ESR me ton Proedro toy Symboylioy gia thn Epilogh Proswpikoy, toy ASEP, prokeimenoy to syntomotero dynato -elpizw na einai qema hmerwn- na ginei epiteloys kai ayth h prokhryjh gia thn proslhch toy proswpikoy, twn 17 aytwn atomwn, monimwn, poy stelexwnoyn to tmhma Elegxoy-Diafaneias toy ESR. Ayth h diadikasia, prepei na sas pw oti jekinhse apo to Noembrio toy 1996, apo emena. Den exei akomh oloklhrwqei. Yparxoyn eggeneis dysxereies, grafeiokratikes, tis opoies den prepei na parablepoyme. Ayto den exei kamia sxesh, omws, me thn elleich boylhshs, h opoia dhqen yparxei gia na mh bohqhqei sto ergo toy, to ESR. Antiqetws, exoyme bohqhsei to ergo toy apofasistika, exoyme ayjhsei ton proypologismo toy. Einai 200 ekatommyria, ta opoia diaqetoyme, prokeimenoy na antapokriqei stis ypoxrewseis toy, peran twn leitoyrgikwn dapanwn, tis opoies analambanei kai plhrwnei to Ypoyrgeio Typoy. Prepei na sas pw oti mesa sto prwto trimhno exoyn aporrofhqei -plhroforoymai- 8 ews10, to poly, ekatommyria. Kalo einai, loipon, na miloyme me sygkekrimena stoixeia. Prepei na sas pw oti to ESR poy kapote htan ena Symboylio, poy periferotan, anazhtwntas xwro gia na synedriasei, shmera exei ypostash, exei ypodomh, exei yposthrijh. Pisteyw de oti kai ta problhmata poy shmera yparxoyn, syntomotata qa antimetwpistoyn kai oloi qa einai ikanopoihmenoi.

KIAOS: Dhladh, h Kybernhsh antimetwpizei endexomenws qema paraithsews toy k. Kasimath;

REPPAS: O k. Kasimaths einai gnwstos dhmosios andras. Den einai apla enas kaqhghths, einai enas dhmosios paragontas, o opoios exei kyros, exei gnwsh toy qematos kai gi` ayto akribws pisteyw, metajy twn allwn, o Proedros ths Boylhs ton epeleje h ton proteine gia th qesh ayth. H synergasia einai acogh. Den tiqetai tetoio qema. Egw den qa pw an yparxei qema paraithshs. Me rwthsate an yparxei qema apo thn pleyra ths Kybernhshs, prokeimenoy na allajei o epikefalhs toy Symboylioy Radiothleorashs. H Kybernhsh prwton, den orizei ton epikefalhs toy Symboylioy Radiothleorashs kai deyteron, di` emoy shmera epanalambanei oti h synergasia mas einai para poly kalh. Den pisteyw oti o k. Kasimaths exei logoys na probalei mia tetoia ypoqesh, ena tetoio endexomeno.

KIAOS: Epeidh thn Paraskeyh einai to organo to kybernhtiko kai kommatiko poy qa synedriasei, opws eipate, mporeite na prosdiorisete pote qa synedriasei kybernhtiko organo, to opoio qa labei apofash gia thn chfiakh thleorash;

REPPAS: Ola ayta qa antimetwpistoyn sto plaisio enos syllogikoy organoy gia prwth fora thn Paraskeyh. Apo kei kai pera, opoies kateyqynseis exoyme meta th synedriash ayth, qa tis akoloyqhsoyme. Kai oi kateyqynseis aytes qa prosdiorisoyn, metajy twn allwn, kai ton paragonta toy xronoy.

KARASABBA: Qa hqela na rwthsw prwton, ean h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh eixe enhmerwqei gia piqanh anabolh ths episkechs ths kas Olmprait to kalokairi. Deyteron, ws pros thn episkech toy Proedroy Milosebits, rwtw kai pali den qa exei kamia synanthsh me kanena politiko proswpo; Kai triton, enocei twn synexomenwn ejtremistikwn epiqesewn, h Ellhnikh Kybernhsh einai ikanopoihmenh me ta metra asfaleias poy yparxoyn;

REPPAS: Gia to prwto qema: Dhmosieyontai diafores plhrofories peri anabolhs toy tajidioy ths kas Olmprait. H Ellhnikh Kybernhsh epishmws den exei kapoia idiaiterh enhmerwsh. Ara den exei allajei kati, oson afora to programma episkechs ths amerikanidas Ypoyrgoy Ejwterikwn. Gia to deytero qema: Den yparxei opoiadhpote epafh me Ellhna epishmo, me kratiko ajiwmatoyxo sthn Ellada twn hgetwn ths Neas Gioygkoslabias. Gia to trito qema: Asfalws, den einai dynaton na einai kapoios ikanopoihmenos, otan exoyme thn ekdhlwsh tetoiwn fainomenwn. Topoqethqhkan aytoi oi ekrhktikoi mhxanismoi. H Astynomia kanei to kalytero dynato. Ta fainomena ayta exoyn mia ejarsh thn teleytaia periodo. Den payw na tonizw, omws, me aformh thn erwthsh sas, oti sthn Ellada ta fainomena ayta einai periorismena kai pantws kinoyntai se epipeda, ta opoia einai poly pio hpia apo ta epipeda sta opoia kinoyntai analoges drasthriothtes se olo ton kosmo. Prepei na pw oti oi energeies aytes, pera apo to oti einai apodokimastees, peran toy oti dhmioyrgoyn kindynoys gia th zwh twn sympolitwn mas, einai energeies oi opoies qeloyn kai kapoia idiaiterh prosoxh gia na antimetwpistoyn. Giati pantote aytos o opoios kanei mia tetoia prajh exei o idios thn prwtoboylia na epilegei to xrono kai ton topo. Ayto, loipon, kanei anish thn prospaqeia. Epeidh eixame prin ligo kairo kala apotelesmata, qetika apotelesmata apo th drash twn diwktikwn arxwn s` ayton ton tomea, elpizw syntoma na exoyme kai pali kala apotelesmata s` ayto ton tomea.

SOYRMELH: Panw sth deyterh apanthsh poy dwsate sthn ka Karasabba, sxetika me ton Milosebits, eipate oti den yparxei kamia epafh me tis ellhnikes arxes, toys Ellhnes paragontes. Hqela na sas rwthsw, na to epekteinw ligo parapanw, mhpws sthn Ellada yparxoyn synomilies me alloys paragontes poy den einai Ellhnes;

REPPAS: H Kybernhsh den gnwrizei otidhpote sxetiko.

T. MPERMPERAKHS: Anaferate peri programmatos episkecews ths kas Olmprait, Yparxei epishmo programma gia thn episkech ths kas Olmprait; Yparxei epishmh synennohsh, anakoinwsh apo thn amerikanikh pleyra;

REPPAS: Yparxei epikoinwnia kai epishmh synennohsh me thn hgesia toy Ypoyrgeioy Ejwterikwn, peri epikeimenhs episkechs ths amerikanidas Ypoyrgoy sthn Ellada. Yparxoyn oi plhrofories aytes poy exoyn dei to fws ths dhmosiothtas, peri anabolhs ayths ths episkechs. To prwto einai etsi opws sas to eqesa. To deytero to plhroforoymai apo ta dhmosieymata. Menei, einai qema ligoy xronoy, na epibebaiwqei pws akribws exei to qema.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Poia htan h anagkh poy sas ekane na dwsete plhrwmenh anakoinwsh - apanthsh gia thn chfiakh thleorash;

REPPAS: Epeidh einai ena meizon qema kai exei apasxolhsei thn koinh gnwmh, idiaiterws meta th megalh dhmosiothta poy phre logw ths kataxwrhshs twn endiaferomenwn, qewrhsa skopimo, prokeimenoy na mhn yparxei mia mikrh anafora gia to qema ayto to toso shmantiko sta Mesa Enhmerwshs, alla na yparxei plhrhs h apanthsh h opoia paroysiazei kai th qesh ths Kybernhshs gia to qema, na proxwrhsw s` ayth th diadikasia twn kataxwrhsewn.

LAKOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, skopeyei h Kybernhsh na tropopoihsei to nomo Peponh h na periorisei to pedio...

REPPAS: Den tiqetai tetoio qema.

MIXAHL: Dwsate mia apanthsh gia toys ekrhktikoys mhxanismoys. Qelw na sas rwthsw an h Kybernhsh exei ypoch ths plhrofories -to armodio Ypoyrgeio ennow- gia anameijh ejwterikwn paragontwn poy ypokinoyn aytes tis ekrhjeis, ektos Elladas, dhladh.

REPPAS: Den mporei na to pei kaneis ayto. Ola ta endexomena, s` aytes tis periptwseis, prepei na ejetazontai. Allwste, yparxei synergasia twn ellhnikwn armodiwn yphresiwn me tis yphresies poy diaqetoyn alles xwres, prokeimenoy na antimetwpistei ayto to fainomeno. Einai mia mastiga gia olo ton kosmo tetoioy eidoys prajeis. Den mporei, omws, na pei kaneis o,tidhpote se sxesh me ayta ta opoia anaferate eseis.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, sxetika me to fainomeno poy eipate: Ayto to fainomeno, ths emfanishs twn MAT opoy phgainei o Prwqypoyrgos, qa synexistei;

REPPAS: Kyrie Stamatopoyle, o Prwqypoyrgos -gnwrizete poly kala- einai enas politikos o opoios einai parwn sthn pragmatikothta kai oi Astynomikes Arxes qa prepei ki aytes na diasfalizoyn th dhmosia tajh kai asfaleia, pragma to opoio den xreiazetai na kanoyn, an emeis oi idioi perifroyroyme ton eayto mas kai den empodizoyme toys sympolites mas apo to na synallassontai h na askoyn kaqhmerina tis apasxolhseis toys me synnomo tropo. Gnwrizete poly kala oti exoyn dhmioyrgei se diaforoys tomeis problhmata. Exoyme deijei eyaisqhsia. Kai ayto apotelei kekthmeno, qa elega, gia thn patrida mas, me to opoio symfwnw se megalo baqmo. Qa prepei, omws, na mhn parablepoyme -kai to eipa sthn arxh ayto emmesws- oti yparxoyn ki alloi polites, oi opoioi apo th dikh mas drasthriothta, blaptontai h qigontai ta symferonta toys. Kai aytoi oi alloi polites den exoyn th dynatothta, isws, na antidrasoyn. Den prepei kapoios na prostateysei ki aytoys toys alloys polites; Egw qa elega oti ayth thn prostasia prepei na thn prosferoyme emeis. Pws; Me to na eimaste synepeis sth doyleia poy exoyme analabei na kanoyme. Me to aparaithto, bebaiws, dikaiwma na anaptyssoyme opoia drasthriothta nomimh, na apergoyme, na kanoyme syllalhthria, na leme tis apoceis mas. Ayto, omws, exei ena orio entos toy opoioy prepei na kineisai. Den nomizw oti prepei na yperbaineis to orio. Kai ayto, giati antilambaneste pws oi synqhkes oi opoies dhmioyrgoyntai einai blaptikes gia oloys.

STAMATOPOYLOS: Kai twn politwn poy diamartyrontai, qigontai symferonta. Den einai mono twn allwn politwn. Ki aytoi poy diamartyrontai, kapoia symferonta toys qigontai. Den diamartyrontai adikaiologhta.

REPPAS: Bebaiws, loipon, opoios nomizei oti qigontai ta symferonta toy, exei synnomoys tropoys na anaptyjei th diamartyria toy, na pei thn apoch toy. Alla, panta yparxoyn oria, entos twn opoiwn kinoymeqa oloi. Kai den ejaireitai kaneis apo ta oria ayta, oyte o Proedros ths Dhmokratias, oyte o Prwqypoyrgos. Giati prepei na ejaireitai o poliths o opoios ergazetai se mia orismenh epixeirhsh; Oloi periorizontai apo to plaisio ayto, to opoio einai desmeytiko gia oloys toys Ellhnes polites. Yparxoyn nomoi, yparxei Syntagma.

MPOGIOPOYLOS: Kyrie Ypoyrge, qelw na qesw ena erwthma: Syxna anaferetai oti o tropos me ton opoio leitoyrgei kai proballei ta qemata ths h Ellhnikh Thleorash, exei na kanei me ton tropo poy ajiologei ayta ta qemata. Xqes, egine mia kinhtopoihsh, mia poreia, poreia eirhnhs pros timhn toy Grhgorh Lamprakh. Polloi anqrwpoi akoloyqhsan ayth thn poreia eirhnhs. H Ellhnikh Thleorash -kai den milaw gia thn idiwtikh thleorash gia thn opoia den sas qewrw ypeyqyno na kanete ena sxolio- qewrhse skopimo na afierwsei thleoptiko xrono se reportaz gia thn paragwgh kotopoylwn kai na mhn kanei kamia anafora s` ayth thn kinhtopoihsh. Qa hqela to sxolio sas.

REPPAS: Prwta ap` ola den eimai ypeyqynos, den eimai armodios kai den exw ayto to rolo na kaqorizw egw poio qa einai to periexomeno twn radiofwnikwn kai thleoptikwn ekpompwn. Akomh ki aytwn twn forewn poy elegxontai apo to Dhmosio. Pantote yparxoyn mhxanismoi yperaspishs toy dhmosioy symferontos sto xwro twn Meswn Enhmerwshs kai ths Epikoinwnias, prokeimenoy na throyntai kapoioi kanones deontologias. Alla panta prepei to dhmosiografiko krithrio na einai ayto, me bash to opoio anephreasta kai xwris na ypokryptontai skopimothtes, epilegontai ta qemata ta opoia qa anadeixqoyn. Sto shmeio ayto, antilambaneste pws xreiazetai, para poly megalh prosoxh, giati kai edw yparxei ena orio, to opoio kaqorizei poies einai oi sxeseis mas. Oi sxeseis, dhladh, ths Politeias me toys leitoyrgoys twn Meswn Enhmerwshs. Antilambanomai, sto pneyma ths dikhs sas erwthshs, pws h sygkekrimenh ekdhlwsh exei th shmasia ths gia logoys pragmatikoys kai symbolikoys, para poly shmantikoys. Gnwrizete oti pantote timatai me diaforoys tropoys h mnhmh toy Grhgorh Lampakh. Me ayth thn ennoia dexomai thn eyaisqhsia poy krybei h erwthsh sas kai pisteyw oti exoyn ena xarakthra diapaidagwghshs aytes oi ekdhlwseis kai prepei na proballontai. Ayth einai mia genikh qesh.

KACAMPELHS: Me thn eykairia kyrie Ypoyrge, qa hqela na rwthsw giati h ERT den einai ston katalogo twn pros ejygiansh Organismwn, twn DEKO poy anakoinwsate teleytaia;

REPPAS: Kyrie Kacampelh, gia thn ERT exoyme syzhthsei prin syzhthsoyme gia opoiadhpote allh DEKO, edw kai enamisi xrono kai exoyme katartisei ena programma, to opoio brisketai se ejelijh. Prepei na sas pw oti o Genikos Kanonismos Proswpikoy einai etoimos. Syzhteitai metajy dioikhshs kai ergazomenwn. Prepei na sas pw oti allaje to Organogramma. Kai oti, epishs, ekei exoyn anazhthqei prwtoboylies, oi opoies exoyn odhghsei thn ERT na prwtoporei s` ayto ton tomea. Kai h ERT exei epityxei kai ta oikonomika megeqh ths na beltiwsei kai -pisteyw- mia kalyterh paroysia se mia poly sklhrh, antagwnistikh agora, opws einai h radiothleoptikh agora.

KACAMPELHS: Na to rwthsw alliwtika...

REPPAS: Qa sas apanthsw ki egw alliwtika. Alla, den mporw na pw diaforetika pragmata.

KACAMPELHS: Gia thn ERT, to dekaoktamhno isxyei; Katalabainete ti ennow.

REPPAS: Isxyei. Katalabainete ti ennow.

DHMOSIOGRAFOI: ( Gelia ).

REPPAS: Sas eyxaristw.

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